ok I went to a dog show a real one, with AKC dogs but I must say I would never buy a shepherd from show breeders the dogs walk on there hocks! they look like hyenas and I don't consider such breeding good, sorry. Now some shepherds had a ground covering trot just like what I normally see but they didn't win, to me such angled hocks would be bad if the dogs were working, you don't see police, or herding dogs like that.
So are there two kinds of shepherd breeders? one that breeds the uphill looking dogs and another that breeds real working dogs? How would you go about finding a good breeder of shepherds without looking for animals with show titles, I don't care if they have clear hips I don't wouldn't want a dog that walks on its hocks.
Anyone else notice this about show shepherds?
2007-11-17 12:35:29 · 6 answers · asked by teenytiny 3 in Pets ➔ Dogs
If you wish to purchase a GSD that does not have the severe anglation that you see in many show dogs, look for dogs from German lines.
2007-11-17 13:39:34 · answer #1 · answered by dee 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I have a one year old german shepard and he has no show lines. I know what you're talking about them walking like that. It takes a lot of research to find a good breeder. We got lucky and found ours in the Trader paper. You really should care about good hips because in the long run it will be better for you. Dogs with bad hips end up in a lot of pain later in life and have a shorter life span. When you go to look at the puppies, make sure BOTH parents are on site and other puppies in the litter. You can determine the health of your puppy by that of the parents and the other puppies. Also, make sure the place is clean and well maintained, you don't want to end up buying from a puppy mill. Also, make sure the people you're buying from know somethings about shepards. The more they know, the better they probably are. If the puppy has papers thru AKC, then you can check out the breeders from AKC. Hopefully, you'll find a good pup.
2007-11-17 20:46:19 · answer #2 · answered by Jenni S 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
well I disagree on the inbreeding..alot of breeders look for a low inbreeding coefficient
you will find those hocks in AKC showlines, German Showlines and Working lines..it really is a matter of knowing your lines.. We have German showline shepherds but I like a very clean front and rear... I will not breed a GSD that is cowhocked or down on their hocks... you just really need to research and learn the conformation of the lines you are interested in..there are some very sound and correct dogs out there
the BEST gsd site is http://www.pedigreedatabase.com it is the largest online GSD database in the world
2007-11-17 21:49:21 · answer #3 · answered by PFSA 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
hahhaa You obviously haven't seen the photos of the top five winners in each class at the UScA Seiger show in the latest Schutzhund magazine! hahaha There are two kinds of breeders, those that care about the entire breed and adhere to the written standard as well as are concerned/knowledgeable regarding breed type and temperament and those that only care about the 'part' they care about and are to foolish to realize or care about the entire dog and the breed's future overall... and are likely pretty ignorant about the things they don't care about as well...
add: Agree with alambre_ -- that 'inbreeding' comment usually evidences abysmal ignorance of breeding strategies as it is a useful strategy when done by someone who knows what they are doing, just as the other strategies are... some of the worst structure and temperament I have seen in the last half century has been from outcrosses -- usually done by people who don't realize how much more of a problem that sort of breeding is but assume that it is the 'safe' thing to do... sad.... also about the angulation thing -- it isn't limited to any specific venue of the breed at all but is seen in all endeavors but that is the last thing I would be concerned about in a GSD given their plethera of health issues, structural issues that matter, temperament issues and the lack of knowledge of many of their owners/breeders (but that cuts through all breeds, unfortunately). The roached back being called 'straight topline' by European judges just cracks me up! They can't seem to see cow hocks in Dobermans or roached backs in either breed but particularly the GSD! :)
2007-11-17 22:29:03 · answer #4 · answered by Nancy M 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
yep 10 yr ago my sister nearly went nuts trying to find an agility prospect
Schuzhund folks have their own perfomance lines and even their own shows. Try there.
Sadly there is such a thing as a "split" breed (more than one even) with lines that only can win shows and lines that can only preform and will be ignored at shows....
2007-11-17 21:31:11 · answer #5 · answered by ragapple 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I think that Breeders have gone to far inner breeding and the breed starts to deter rate.
2007-11-17 20:51:19 · answer #6 · answered by Fred C 1 · 0⤊ 3⤋