2007-11-17
04:03:54
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Since the idea of Purgatory is not even closely alluded to in the Bible, and the scripture references have nothing to do with it (specifically the ones listed in Encyclopedias) I would really like to know where it is from.
Even in the Apocrypha (rejected books) it only talks about praying for the Dead, and gives absolutely no explanation as to the kind of place it is.
Where did the idea come from? Where did the neat little explanations and additional info come from? What are the real sources?
2007-11-17
04:20:25 ·
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Spiritroaming - the passages that you actually do address from scripture have to do with the Day of Judgement. This is the case of the verse in 2 Timothy as well.
The judgment of man will take place in Heaven before God's Throne.
Rev 7:13-17
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
2007-11-17
04:25:06 ·
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purgatory is a metaphore for a "place" between heaven and hell, a place where a person could PURGE their sins.
In other words, purgatory is simply another name for earth. Cause earth is the ONLY place you have to "purge your sins" whatever sins are. If you die before you've "purged your sins" back you come to earth to live the same life all over again, being born again in the same year as the last time, to the same parents, in the same country, with the same siblings, same school, same damned EVERYTHING!
2007-11-19 13:12:55
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Purgatory as a state( not a place, the place for purification and purgation is here on earth in this mortal life in yielding to grace in all our struggles) of purification for the saved after death is biblical and of Apostolic Tradition and of reason since God's Justice and Holiness demand such a "decompression chamber' before we are capable of experiencing God without a veil or obstacle of any remnants that need complete conversion to grace.
Look up Matt5:26-28
Heb12:14
James 3:2
Rev 21:27
1 John5:16-17
2 Sam12:13-14
Matt12:32-36
2 Macc12:44-46
1 Pet3:18-20&4:6
2 Tim1:16-18
1 Cor 15:29-30
2007-11-17 06:15:48
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answered by James O 7
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It became the devil who informed Eve: “You easily won't die.” (Genesis 3:4) yet she did die; no component of her lived on. That the soul lives on after dying is a lie all started by applying the devil. And it is likewise a lie, which the devil has had unfold, that the souls of the depraved are tormented in a hell or a purgatory. because of the fact the Bible for sure shows that the ineffective are subconscious, those teachings would desire to no longer be authentic. truthfully, neither the word “purgatory” nor the assumption of a purgatory is stumbled on interior the Bible. while Lazarus died, Jesus Christ did no longer say that he became in purgatory, Limbo, or the different “intermediate state.” Jesus in basic terms pronounced: “Lazarus has fallen asleep.” (John 11:11) for sure, Jesus, who knew the reality approximately what happens to the soul at dying, believed that Lazarus became subconscious, nonexistent. the recent Catholic Encyclopedia recognizes: “interior the main suitable diagnosis, the Catholic doctrine on purgatory is in step with custom, no longer Sacred Scripture.”
2016-10-17 02:12:35
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answer #3
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answered by ? 4
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I do not know where the idea of Purgatory came from originally but it was popularized by The Divine Comedy written between 1308 and 1321 by Dante Alighieri.
2007-11-17 06:43:59
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answered by Melly 2
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Dr. Boettner then gives us "Some Roman Catholic Heresies And Inventions" and the dates that these alleged "Apostolic" traditions were added to Roman Catholic theology &endash;
*The doctrine of Purgatory, established by Gregory I 593
*Sale of Indulgences 1190
*Purgatory proclaimed a dogma by Council of Florence 1439
The primary Scriptural passage Catholics point to for evidence of Purgatory is 1 Corinthians 3:15, which says, “If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.” The passage (1 Corinthians 3:12-15) is using an illustration of things going through fire as a description of believers’ works being judged. If our works are of good quality “gold, sliver, costly stones,” they will pass through the fire unharmed, and we will be rewarded for them. If our works are of poor quality “wood, hay, and straw,” they will be consumed by the fire, and there will be no reward. The passage does not say that believers pass through the fire, but rather that a believer’s works pass through the fire. 1 Corinthians 3:15 refers to the believer “escaping through the flames,” not “being cleansed by the flames.”
Purgatory, like many other Catholic dogmas, is based on a misunderstanding of the nature of Christ’s sacrifice. Catholics view the Mass / Eucharist as a re-presentation of Christ’s sacrifice because they fail to understand that Jesus’ once for all sacrifice was absolutely and perfectly sufficient (Hebrews 7:27). Catholics view meritorious works as contributing to salvation due to a failure to recognize that Jesus’ sacrificial payment has no need of additional “contribution” (Ephesians 2:8-9). Similarly, Purgatory is understood by Catholics as a place of cleansing in preparation for Heaven because they do not recognize that because of Jesus’ sacrifice, we are already cleansed, declared righteous, forgiven, redeemed, reconciled, and sanctified.
2007-11-17 04:45:47
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answered by Freedom 7
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Purgatory is Biblical.
The "Rapture" isn't named by that word in the Bible, yet many consider it Biblical.
The "sinners prayer" is not named Biblically, yet many still consider it Biblical.
God will not allow those who are not perfect to enter Heaven -- "Be ye perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect". Accepting Jesus Christ as your Saviour doesn't make you perfect, it makes you a BELIEVING Christian, but not a santified one. Only SANCTIFICATION makes you perfect, but you are still liable to sin. Once you sin, your soul is marked, and you are again, not as yet perfect. You are saved, but if you die in the condition of unperfection, you must go through a period of cleansing fire to purify your soul to perfection again, and then you are guided to Heaven. Purgatory is simply a cleansing place, not Hell, but on your way to Heaven. Most people will go there on the way to Heaven.
Take your pick, just because the "word" that is being considered isn't used, doesn't mean it doesn't provide for a Biblical CONCEPT.
2007-11-17 04:05:57
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answered by Christine S 3
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Go here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory
You really need to start to learn to use Google and Wikipedia instead of asking questions you could clearly figure out yourself. You have a computer!! Use it!!
2007-11-17 04:10:05
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answered by Bill N 5
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From the catholic church. It is not in the Bible, and I dare anyone show me where it is in the Bible.
2007-11-17 04:07:46
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answered by Anonymous
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same place as the non-sensical idea of heaven did.
someone made it up.
2007-11-17 04:07:04
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answered by synopsis 7
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from man made doctrine. i.e. the catholic church.
2007-11-17 04:18:19
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answered by Anonymous
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