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where exactly in the bible does god the father, not jesus, claim to be perfect? where does it say that it is impossible for him to ever err? perfection implies that not only has god never made a mistake, but that he never will make one. it's one thing to say he was perfect. it's a completely different thing to say that not only has he never made a mistake, but that he never will make a mistake. does god ever make this the claim that he is forever infallible? where exactly is this claim made?

2007-11-16 18:14:58 · 17 answers · asked by just curious (A.A.A.A.) 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

punter, thanks, but none of those answered my question. i didn't see one claim of perfection in any of those verses. they were just that, verses. they didn't really say anything.

2007-11-16 18:19:52 · update #1

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I'm not sure; but he's made mistakes with me....I mean, after all, I am an Atheist :P

2007-11-16 18:17:44 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

1. Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)): "He is Allâh (SWT), (the) One. The Self-Sufficient Master, (Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks) He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him. (Quran Chapter 112)
2. He is the Merciful and the Compassionate, the Guardian and the True Guide, the Just and the Supreme Lord, the Creator and the Watchful, the First and the Last, the Knowing and the Wise, the Hearing, and the Aware, the Witness and the Glorious, the Able and ' the Powerful. (Holy Quran).
3. He is the Loving and the Provider, the Generous and the Benevolent, the Rich and the Independent, the Forgiving and the Clement, the Patient and the Appreciative, the Unique and the Protector, the Judge and the Peace. (Holy Quran example). The question of Allah's (SWT) 'God' existence has preoccupied men's minds for many centuries. Those who believe in Allah (SWT) 'God' seem to agree that the limited finite human intelligence cannot prove the existence of the infinite boundless of Allah (SWT) 'God'. It can only illustrate or demonstrate his existence to the satisfaction of the curious human mind.
Those who deny Allah's (SWT) 'God' claim to rely on science, philosophy, or special theories of knowledge. Their arguments are sometimes inapplicable, sometimes irrelevant, always complex, and often incomprehensible. However, the developed mind will find its way to Allah (SWT) 'God'. Failure to find the way does not mean that there is no way. Denial of reality does not make it unreal.

2007-11-16 18:17:57 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

because God can do something. God would not decide himself, he's the decide. i imagine the "all of us are sinners" is from the unique sin, and that one and all all and assorted is mistaken and in difficulty-free words God is perfect. for this reason the: "enable the guy who has no longer sinned solid the first stone" we received't decide because we are sinners/mistaken. we are no longer all good, nor all undesirable. we are all someplace in between. interior the former testomony, God might want to smite each person for the smallest offense. interior the hot testomony, with Jesus, all and assorted is given a pathway to salvation. So then, they have better than a snowball's probability in, er... heaven. yeah. yet you already know, i imagine the element is that, once you imagine about an action like stealing, or perhaps violating or killing someone, and also you already know you're doing a nasty element, then it extremely is God chatting with you. Your judgment of perfect and incorrect, you already know? you already know on your heart what the right and incorrect issues are. you do not must be Christian to have morals. i do not extremely comprehend the whole trinity element, yet oh properly. there's a variety of of issues i do not comprehend about God. besides, i do not imagine at the same time as God is judging, it really is about honest, it really is about the superb potential--who're we to opt for what's honest? you already know... yeah.

2016-10-24 09:27:49 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Bible is God's revelation of Himself. God spoke through the inspired writers in the following verses:

"I will proclaim the name of the LORD. Oh, praise the greatness of our God! He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He." Deut. 32:3-4
"As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless. He is a shield for all who take refuge in him." Psalm 18:30
" O LORD, you are my God; I will exalt you and praise your name, for in perfect faithfulness you have done marvelous things, things planned long ago." Isaiah 25:1
"Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows." James 1:17
And this is what Jesus said:
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matth. 5:48

2007-11-17 05:32:49 · answer #4 · answered by Friend of Jesus 4 · 0 0

I have a New Living Translation version of the Bible with a reference index, and there is no listing of "God is perfect". He's a lot of other things: a warrior, trustworthy, too great to be described, gracious and merciful, good, mighty, a rock, our hope, our salvation, holy (surprise, surprise), all-powerful, all-knowing, approachable, love, and almighty. But not perfect. You just have to remember he had to fix his mistakes by causing the Great Flood, right?

2007-11-16 18:22:24 · answer #5 · answered by TitoBob 7 · 0 0

God doesn't claim to be perfect nor does he claim that he will never make a mistake. he is not infallible, he is just omniscient.

2007-11-16 18:20:51 · answer #6 · answered by frutella 2 · 0 0

I don't think the Christian God ever claimed to be actually prefect. I think it's been more of a selling point by His followers, based upon extrapolation and the need for positive spin.

2007-11-16 18:18:49 · answer #7 · answered by Matthew T 1 · 0 0

God gave us free will, and created the Universe and all nature. Natural law permits things to happen, for good and ill. I don't think those are God's will. We have our reactions to others and life's events.

Imperfection is a judgement, as is seeing beauty in all things.

2007-11-16 18:21:28 · answer #8 · answered by Laurence W 6 · 0 0

God makes no such claim however prophets of god have claimed this in his name and presumably by his will.
According to the Bible, God said "I am that I am".

2007-11-16 18:21:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

god doesnt claim to be perfect. it doesnt say that anywhere, in the old text or the new, but the implication is there by the writers.

2007-11-16 18:21:02 · answer #10 · answered by loanman 4 · 0 0

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