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Question

God gave free will to all his creations;
Including Lucifer.
If God gave Lucifer free will then why would God prophecize in the Bible that Lucifer would rule the world for a thousand years and be unleashed for another thousand years and then finally defeated?

If Lucifer got free will then why have God written his future?

Is it predestinated by God or is it just foreknowledge?

If it is foreknowledge that means God knows exactly what would happen to every single human since He created Adam.
If not He could not write Lucifers future. Remember that Lucifer got free will yet God knows exactly what will happen.

That means even with our free will God knows exaclty what we will do and could even write it down the Bible if He wanted.

That means that when God created Adam He had Foreknowledge that people would end up in Hell.

God had a choice knowing the future before creating Adam.

God chose to create Adam. God chose Hell for people.

Whether it is foreknowledge, predestination or free will God knew all along that creating Adam would end up in having lots of people sent to hell.

He knew creating Lucifer would end up in Lucifer suffering as a devil.

Free will or not; God knew the result and the future and could have avoided creating Lucifer since He had foreknowledge.

Please give me some justifications on this.

Answer 1

'If Lucifer got free will then why have God written his future?'

Wow, why have you evolved to be able to type and yet you can't speak proper English? Life is full of contradictions and mysteries.

P.S. Give me a thumbs down if you are also struggling with the English language.

Answer 2

If there is a God, then that God has no free will.This is true for any standard monotheistic God, not only the christian one. Not only does the existence of God logically, philosophically and theologically deny the possibility of free will, but the Bible also says and teaches that there is no free will. Examining Exodus, Ecclesiastes 7, Ephesians 1, Ephesians 2, Acts 13, Romans 8, Romans 9, 2 Timothy, 2 Thessalonians and Revelations, we see that God's plan overrides our free will; those that do good do the specific good that God predestined them to do, and all others are ruled by Satan because God sends "powerful delusions" to them. The Christian Bible frequently states that God creates our future and decides our fates, no matter what our own will is. It constantly denies that we have free will. Some of the foremost Christians in history have taught that there is no free will, including St. Augustine (one of the four great founders of Western Christianity), Martin Luther (founder of Protestantism) and John Calvin.

Answer 3

God is omnipotent and all seeing He knows what you're gonna do before you do it. God chose to give us free will just being the fact that He is God and does not like to force things upon us. An example of God knowing the future would be in Genesis when God sent the Flood because everyone except for Noah was disobeying God and He made a promise that He would never flood the whole world again. some people think He broke His promise but have you seen a flood so far that covered the whole world? God keeps His promises. And God doesn't look at the corner He looks at the whole picture. If this didn't happen Jesus wouldn't have been needed to come to earth to save us and the prophecies in the Bible wouldn't have been fulfilled and that would have made God a liar and God doesn't not lie. God created Hell originally for the devil and the 3/4 of the angels that followed him. God chose to create Adam just like he chose to create you through your parents.

Answer 4

Yes, God did give us free will and knows the future and every event before it happened. But you also have to understand that God also created every being with the ability to do what is "right". Every being ever born or created has or had it in him to make a choice to be with God including the devil. The Lord is not looking for robots but individuals who exercise their own free will to love Him. If people go off into oblivion and fire, they did so at their own choice and chose suffering for themselves.

Answer 5

You are asking this question to only Christians.

I am a Muslims and I have correct answer for you.
As you say God knows every thing what each individual will do because he can see future. But he doesn't make us do what he wants us to do. If God pre-planned our action than our Free will doesn't mean any thing. We choose to dp good or bad ourselves.

If God wants us to do some good for any one else who need our help, then God may inspire us to help that person. But God never make us do any thing wrong to punish us in hell fire.

God doesn't write future of any one. God has planned for each one of us when we come to this world and what sort of work we will do and whom we will marry and how many children we will have. But using our Free will most good and bad we do on our own choices. That is why God often told to the living Prophet when the next Prophet will come and where he will come and what will be his signs etc. God knows how much rejection by his own people will be suffer and when he will be succeed in his missin or that he will not succeed and finally will ask God to destroy his people like Noah did. But God didn't make any of the bad people of Noah do the bad things. They did with their choices of Free will.

God knows who will deserve hell and who will deserve heaven. So he made hell and heaven but God doesn't plan and make us do bad things.

I hope I have answered your questions.

Answer 6

okay im not quite sure what your question is but here goes. yes, god knows what is everything that will be and has been and is. but let me give you an analogy.

if you and i perceive time as a line on a paper, perceive god as the paper on which the line was drawn.

so to him, any time is 'now'. he moves to any point on the line and it is now. say you sin tomorrow, he knows about it, but to him you are doing it 'now' because he is in tomorrow too.

so god does not view time the same way that you or i do.


also i dont really know what sorta text you are reading this passage from. is it revelations?


god knew about lucifer and adam but it wasnt as you think. god predicted that lucifer will be defeated, showing how he is power over evil. god is only letting satan around for so long until he comes down and takes his followers away with him and the rest he will leave behind. then satan will be cast in a sulfurous pit and be left to suffer in agony.


not sure if this helps you too much but i hope it shed some light on your questions.

Answer 7

My hat's off to you. This has to be the best reasoning that I've seen to prove that Satan is not an actual sentient being. But don't forget, you can't use "Lucifer" to describe Satan. Lucifer is just a mistranslated word from the Vulgate that was later copied into the King James Version.
Lucifer is only mentioned once in the bible (Isaiah 14:12). In the Septuagint, Isaiah 14:12 read “How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning!”
The Greek term heosphoros, means “dawn-bearer”, “bright one”, or “day-star”, a term referring to the planet Venus with its rising before the dawn and falling from the horizon later.
Heosphoros translates correctly from Greek into Latin as luciferin. The Hebrew word was Helel, both with the same meaning as above.
Jerome, in creating the Latin Vulgate, mistranslated this word, changing it into the proper name Lucifer, and a theology developed around this mistranslated word over the years.

Answer 8

I'm not a Christian but your question is a variety of the Argument from Evil question.

God created humanity knowing in advance that humanity would fall from grace. God created Satan knowing in advance that Satan would rebel and bring evil into God's creation. Therefore, God is ultimately responsible for the existence of evil and man's fall. As one freethinker wrote in a published essay "The Fall of Man was a setup." Nobody would have known man's true nature better than God. God made humans curious then stuck them in a Garden and told them they could eat anything except the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil [Must have had strange leaves].
It's like putting a child in a room full of toys and a loaded gun and say "You can play with anything you like except the gun." What do you expect? As soon as you are absent the child runs and grabs the gun right from the get go! Legally a parent would be subject to criminal prosecution for leaving a loaded gun where a child can get ahold of it! Same with God. God would be morally responsible for allowing evil to enter the world (and according to the Haggada, this is the 7th attempt on God's part, the first six worlds had to be destroyed due to "extreme wickedness" and this one, according to the Bible was almost obliterated by the Great Deluge!

But perhaps the Free Will question was best answered by "God" in Neale Walsch's Conversations with God book.
Without dealing with the question of whether or not God is actually talking here, let's see what was said.

"Let's see, I gave you guys Free Will, and if you exercize your Free Will and decide not to obey me or love me, I'll damn you for all eternity? What kind of Free Will is that?"


Good question, indeed!

This is supposedly the good news of the Gospel?

"I hope you love me and obey me, and if you do I'll reward you with eternal bliss in Heaven, and if you don't, I'll damn you in the eternal fires of Hell for ever and ever. I think I'll call this Bribe and Threat of mine "Unconditional Love" No, I've got a better idea. I'll call it Free Will, that way I can blame YOU GUYS for the mess the World's in and not who really deserves the blame: ME!"

Answer 9

I do not believe that God knew in his foreknowledge that Lucifer would sin against him
he gave him to be an Arch angle the highest rank of angels
he had authority over much of Heaven
no one else in Heaven sinned against God just Lucifer and then he coned the lower angels to side with him
God wanted man to walk with him and be his friend
read
The Book of Enoch

http://www.carm.org/lost/enoch.htm
that will explain it
I loved it

Answer 10

Actually, Satan isn't the one who will rule during the thousand year reign. It is Christ, the King of God's Kingdom. During that time, Satan is going to be tied up and thrown into the abyss. Symbolism for inactivity. After the thousand years end and the earth has been transformed into a Paradise and faithful mankind have reached perfection, Satan and his demons are going to be loosed again. They are going to have the chance to try and turn people away from God again, but this is going to be short-lived, as soon after, Satan and his demons are going to be destroyed permanently.

What was my point? Oh yeah...predestination. The Bible says that God knows the end from the beginning. (Isaiah 46:9, 10) Yes, we all have free will, but he always makes known his purpose. The above prophecy is regarding his magnificent purpose for the entire earth and obedient mankind. It is God's Kingdom that is going to solve all our problems. He only foreordains certain matters that are in connection with the accomplishment of his purpose, and has the almighty power to assure that these will be fulfilled!

Answer 11

If we compare freewill and predestination correctly it is rather simple.
You are standing at a fork in the road.
Which fork do you take the one on the right or the one on the left. Since you have freewill it's your choice.
If you travel down the road to the left you are predestined to experience certain things.
If you travel down the road to the right you will experience different things.
We must understand that while we have a freewill choice to take the road we want we are also predestined to suffer or enjoy the consequences of that freewill choice.