Above answerers are correct about the 'Doctrine of Grace' and the council of Nicea, which rejected Pelagianism as a threat to the power of priests to guide and rule their believers.
Far be it from me, of all people, to enter into this controversy, but I do not believe that children are born in sin and need 'cleansing'. I would argue for baptism at 18, for example.
That once an adult has full use of his or her reason, he becomes responsible for all the consequences of his actions, and he insults God if he does not use what abilities he happens to have to do all the good he can.
That one may read the bible (in translation) alone, and live a decent life without helping the building of cathedrals was condemned as a heresy.
There are other views, to be fair. I think they are wrong, of course.
2007-11-16 11:56:40
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answered by Anonymous
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Augustine Vs Pelagius
2016-11-14 03:23:55
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answered by ? 4
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St. Augustine promoted the Catholic doctrines of original sin, infant baptism, impossibility of a sinless life without Christ, and the necessity of Christ's grace.
Pelagius maintained there was no "original sin", that man was not destined to live forever, and that Adam would have died whether he was a sinner or not, and that Christ's grace is not necessary for man to lead a "good" life.
I am a Catholic.
2007-11-16 12:37:37
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answered by Baby Poots 6
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St. Augustine rectified his position with the Church. I finished a study on his 4 months ago. He met with the bishop on 3 different occasions and after their talks, St. Augustine received Reconciliation. Luther did more than rebute the Church's teachings on salvation. He "rewrote" the Bible, omitting several books and verses. The Bible is God's word and is not to be omitted or added to. And Luther spoke out against the papacy. It was Jesus that started the papacy with St. Peter and St. Paul and gave them authority over His church on earth. Luther stated that we are to go thru Jesus only for everything and the papacy was in error. So of course he was excommunicated. I have been a Catholic for 37 yrs (devoted for the past 5 yrs). I have played devil's advocate in many of our Bible study groups and now am at an understanding of the Catholic Church and have no doubts. The Church teaches the Bible and follows what St. Peter and St. Paul began and it's following through with what Jesus taught. Of course man is with error but every time the Church, the Pope, speaks out on faith and scripture, he is infallible. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit (God's Spirit) to the Church to guide it and advise it. I have had many email talks with non-Catholics that continue to say there are contradictions and every time I can show them that there isn't.
2016-05-23 21:57:25
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answered by ? 3
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Pelagius taught that it was possible for human beings to not sin. Augustine was convinced that we're born tainted with original sin.
I think neither one got it exactly right, and it matters in a roundabout way. Augustine's logic was based on some flawed biological and metaphysical assumptions. But I think his conclusion that we're all sinful has some merit; in the big picture, none of us achieve perfect Christlikeness in this life, so we all "miss the mark" or "fall short of the Glory of God" to some extent. But Pelagius is the contrarian voice of reason that says human actions and intentions do matter in the here and now; they have relative merit. Whereas Augustine's thought tends to reduce all human activity to absolute worthlessness.
Peace to you.
2007-11-16 11:35:04
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answered by Orpheus Rising 5
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Grace
pelagius rejected Original Sin as a doctrine and taught that one could save oneself by good works apart from grace and then be rewarded by God. Jesus death was mostly an example and inspiration. Augustine emphasized taht we can do no good except by through and because of God's grace. and he was very much a proponent of the doctrine of Original Sin
2007-11-16 11:28:35
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answered by James O 7
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The docrine of origianl sin While Agustine is considered a major Saint in the West he is contriversial in the East as we beelive that he went a bit to far on the man is corupt point of view.
you can read abit mroe about our view of him at
http://www.oca.org/QAindex-teaching.asp?SID=3
http://oca.org/QA.asp?ID=4&SID=3
http://oca.org/QA.asp?ID=4&SID=3
and
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/bless_aug.aspx
2007-11-16 11:38:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes - it was that salvation was by the grace of God, alone!
Augustine was correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagianism
2007-11-16 11:26:00
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answered by savedbygracethroughfaithinJesus 2
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NO''
2007-11-17 04:06:38
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answered by bigturkeyme 6
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