Muslims who say the Bible is corrupt, how is it corrupt exactly?

Question

Edited? Poor translations? How is it corrupt exactly?

I heard it in a Muslim response to a question a few minutes ago on this forum

Answer 1

I'm Christian, not moslem, however I can explain it a little bit to those interested.

In early Christianity, there was no uniformity of views. There were in fact, many different Christianities, just as now we have many different denominations. Some of the main groups were gnostic christians (several different branches), judeo-christian groups (who continued practicing a form of christianity while abiding by the laws of moses), and the gentile form of Christianity, which later became the official religion of the Roman Empire.

At that point, the other forms of Christianity were declared heresies. These other forms of Christianity were more prevalent in the eastern areas. Many of their books were destroyed.

Moslems say that these books represented the true Christianity, not the books that were adopted by the Church in Rome. Islam developed after Christianity, in part because they felt that Christianity had strayed from its true origins. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are a descended from the same Abrahamic faith- they are all montheistic religions.

The reason they believe that the Bible is corrupt is because they feel that Chrisianity strayed from its origins and they feel that we have the wrong books. They think that the Christian books they knew in early Christianity in the eastern area were the true books of Christianity, not the books that were put in the canon of the Church in Rome.

Answer 2

@ islam: Since Allah allowed his previous Revelations to be corrupted by weak human people, this leads to one of the following assumptions about Allah: 1.Allah is a weak god; he could not protect his previous Revelations. He also gains more power and might throughout time, because he supposedly is now able to protect his last revelation, the Quran. 2.Allah does not care about people being misled by counterfeit revelations. And yet he will still punish individuals with hell fire because they follow a corrupted Message even though they may have not come to the realization that Allah had allowed it to be corrupted. That means Allah is unjust. In light of the above, how can we trust that the Quran is preserved if these three Revelations are corrupted? How can a person trust that Allah did not fail to protect his so-called final revelation, the Quran, when he was too weak to prevent people from tampering with his previous Messages? Maybe Allah needs to a send a fifth revelation? Perhaps he has already sent down this fifth book, and that is actually the revelation given to Baha’ullah the founder of the Baha’i faith? More importantly, how do Muslims reconcile their position with Allah’s claim in the Quran that “there is no changing the words of God”? Muslims, you have to make a decision and choose one of these alternatives: 1.The Quran is preserved and the earlier Revelations are corrupted. In that case, Allah is either weak or he is unjust. That is the only explanation for his preservation of the Quran and letting people corrupt his previous Revelations. 2.The Quran is corrupted like the other Revelations. Then you should either not read it since you do not read other corrupted Revelations, or maybe you should read these other corrupted Revelations just as you insist on reading the corrupted Quran. 3.The Quran is preserved, and the previous Revelations have also been preserved. That means then you should read these authentic Revelations (the Bible) for yourself. 4.The Quran is corrupted but the earlier Revelations are preserved. Obviously, you should then abandon the Quran and read the Bible. Just a second, I’m not finished yet. If you picked option number three, then you will be faced with another problem. The Quran contradicts these previous Revelations in many essential points. That means that the Quran is a false message which cannot be from God since God is not the author of confusion. He could not reveal a message that contradicts his previous Messages. If you do not like these alternatives, then tell me: What exactly do you think is wrong with my above observations and conclusions? If you do not accept my premises and therefore reject my conclusions, then: PROVE TO ME THAT THE QURAN IS PRESERVED. You have to do that in a rational way without quoting the Quran since that would only be a repetition of the claim, not a proof, or trying to prove that the previous Revelations are corrupted which in no way proves the Quran not to be corrupted, or providing me with (what I consider fake) scientific miracles in the Quran. I want you to resolve the philosophical problem outlined above. Show me logically and rationally how the Muslim assertion of a perfectly preserved Quran together with an alleged corruption of God’s earlier Revelations is not an insult to God’s perfect justice and great power.

Answer 3

Muslims who know the Bible and hold on to their beliefs are struggling. They know the corruption does not exist. It is just a matter of being honest with oneself and finding the courage to stand in the face of severe threats.
The inclusion of many of Christ's teachings was a very clever move by Muhammad. Where is the need to search the Bible when the teachings of Christ are in the Quran? They are unaware, to a great extent, that much of those teachings has been ommitted. Throw in a warning about questioning the Quran and you have the perfect setup to say that anything that disagrees with the forgery is the result of evil Christian interference, despite the fact that Bible translators go through great pains to insure faithfulness to available original texts.
The supposed corruptions are seen from the perspective of the Quran, and not from the proper Biblical perspective.

Answer 4

Muslims do believe in bible in the first place when it was god words only , you know through years churchmen add , delete ,and modify some chapters and verses the reason of having many versions of bible now. even there is a lot of Christians who believes that bible has verses that mankind made.

we do respect bible and we doesn't make any judgments on it , we simply were asked to believe in qur'an as the last holy book sent by God,when he promised to protect it by himself its never changed since more than1428 years ,not even one letter has been moved .

many websites can provide a complete view on this subject that i couldn't cover , but hope my answer was clear ;p

peace :)

Answer 5

well who says it is and who says it is not. What i say s we should all believe in what we want without hating people for it and if they say it's corrupt say well i don't think it is do not say it is not because you don't know for sure and neither does the pther person. Nobody truly knows if the bible is correct or corrupt or anything we go on what we think same with religion

Answer 6

Well whether it's the Bible, Quran or Torah, it's all the same thing. People shouldn't pass judgements. The main religious rule should be to make life nice for yourself and others, not make life miserable for yourself and others. No need! Life's too short. After death, no religion needed.

Answer 7

Muslims want to rule the world. so anything other than the qur'an to them is corrupt

Answer 8

It's been translated too many times. Things tend to get lost in translation.

Answer 9

Probably because those who say so think it makes them feel better, and think it makes the Koran seem more important. Classic schoolkid insult.

Answer 10

whoever said that to you is wrong muslims believe in the bible