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how some people are filled with the Holy Spirit. It says in the Bible that after you are baptized you become able to be filled with the holy spirit. There is proof of that happening. there is visual proof of people who are in the right state of mind (usually during prayer of a church service) of people being filled with the holy spirit and speaking in tongues, I have seen it myself. How can counter that argument. How can you tell Christians that there is no such thing as God when we see spiritual proof of it?


Even in other religions there are other unexplainable things happening. eg. people who walk on glass and hot coals without being burnt. IF there was no Christian God, wouldn't that explain that there is something out there?


******Can you, jokers and haters, leave this answer to those of a more serious nature****** PLZ

Answer 1

Buddhist monks can meditate to the point where they do not feel the pain of being engulfed by fire.

Inuit boys meet their animal spirit guides and become mature.

This proves that the mind is powerful, not that reincarnation or spirits are real.

Answer 2

I'm sorry but "seeing someone speak in tongues" is not proof of being filled with the holy spirit. The human mind can do some really strange things. Did you know that if a virgin woman (or teen) wants to be pregnant really really badly (like super super really!! lol) that the body will start showing the signs of pregnancy even though she is a virgin? like the hormones will change, She will start lactating, her belly will begin to grow a little (not a lot but enough to notice). All this because the HUMAN MIND wanted it to be so. Therefore there is no proof of someone being filled with the holy spirit because it is possible that they simply wanted to be so badly that their brains gave them what they wanted and they spoke gibberish (not tongues). Until someone can physically prove they are filled with the holy spirit (ie. medical tests, neurological exams, etc.) then there is no proof.

P.S. why do you tell the jokers and haters not to answer? is it because you are too afraid of someone having a valid argument and you would be completely defenseless because yours is lame?

Answer 3

I was filled with the Holy Spirit back in 1999 whilst on the Alpha course and He has transformed me from an evil hating everyone around me ***** from Hell to a loving and more gentle person I don't speak in tongues
by the way see what you make of this - I was healed of Blindness in May 2000 - approx 6 months later now I don't believe that would have happened if the Holy Spirit hadn't come upon me 6 months before!!! I have also been given by the Spirit the gift of Faith.
I am no joker all this REALLY happened.

Answer 4

I am not really sure what you mean you have seen? What spiritual proof are you talking about?

There are a lot of things you need to rethink about religion and god creation especially when you read the evolution theory.
E.g can you explain why we have muscles that control the movement of our ears? This is because in a previous stage of evolution those muscles where used to direct the ears towards the sound direction. Later humans developed a 3d orientation of sound but the muscles remained there even if we don't actually need them. But a dog needs those muscles to direct the ears into the proper direction.

There are unexplained phenomena. Things that we are not yet able to explain. Like in the older days simple physical phenomena like the rain would be interpreted as the act of god.

Magicians do tricks as well.

I know you said no jokes but this is a joke/example of what I mean by Rowan Atkinson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTzXJMU1sLc

Answer 5

In all seriousness, people are capable of acting as ridiculous as they want to, especially in an environment where it's accepted.

I've been a Christian. I've been baptized. I never felt a thing. I was even told by a close friend, who happened to be a Southern Baptist minister, and one of the beginning voices of "Fundamentalist Christianity", that he thought it was ridiculous, people hopping all about with their hands raised and speaking in tongues. For almost two thousand years people were able to go to Church and keep the religion alive with out acting like fools and speaking in "tongues", and these guys were the original Christians.

Tongues don't exist. "Tongues" in the Bible refers to languages spoken by the apostles, not garbled trash.

It's all a joke, kid. Sorry to tell you, but It's all one, big three-ring circus.

Nothing is unexplainable, some things are just harder to explain than others.

Answer 6

okay, you have a basic misunderstanding of what babtism is and how the indwelling of the Holy Spirit makes profound changes in you.

lets define terms. First, babtism is a technical term. it means to stain material purple. nothing more than that.

now, in the bible, Jesus uses babtism, (something the people would understand) to illistrate that you are "stained" as it were, or identified with. it is to say that you are identified with Christ.

a gentleman by the name of Dodd, spent about 20 years examining the teaching of babtism and explains that unless water is clearly mentioned, the references to babtism in the bible should be thought of in terms of work of the Holy Spirit.

when a person becomes saved, they are babtized by the Holy Spirit and their spirit is regenerated. this is what is mean in cor. 3:17 where paul writes, you are a new creation, the old is passed away, all has become new.

once and only after you are in Christ, filled with the Holy Spirit, then will the gifts and fruit of the Spirit be manifest in you.

the way in which a person if filled with the Spirit is by confessing their sins, and asking Jesus to be their Savior and LORD. The Holy Spirit in our time of grace acts in the place of Jesus to teach us to obey the LORD and to become transformed into the likeness and character of Jesus.

i hope this helps

Answer 7

All such things are evidence that the material world is not as "solid" as it seems. Evidence of spirits abounds with consistent commonality throughout the indigenous cultures of the world even in places that had been isolated for thousands of years. There is something out there, regardless of how this or that doctrine attempts to profile it.

Answer 8

Some would say that one who believes in God is not in a "right state of mind".

Regarding tongues: If all Christians are supposed to do it, why have I only seen it in Pentecostal churches and not Lutheran, Catholic or Presbyterian? Also, I don't consider what I've seen to be Biblical, as there was no interpretation. (1 Corinthians 14.) Plus, speaking in tongues, referring to Acts, seems to be in regards to speaking in languages others understand, not seemingly meaningless babble. Also, just because most translations say "tongues", doesn't mean that that is what is in the original Greek or Aramaic. (I think all of the epistles are in Greek originally, but I'm not sure.

If one does not speak in tongues, but believes and lives his or her faith, does that mean s/he is not a Christian?

If God is only the God of Christianity, why would God bother to perform miracles in other religions? Did not Jesus say in one (or more) of the gospels that the only way to God is through Jesus?

Satan is also capable of performing "miracles".

Assuming the events of Exodus happened exactly the way they are depicted.... How do you explain Pharaoh's magicians performing the exact same things that is said that God did through Noah? Did God perform the same acts through the magicians?

Answer 9

People can walk on hot coals because a thin layer ash forms on coals; they are not so hot to a quick touch. There is a scientific explanation for that event!

Maybe if you paid more attention to science, observation, and explanation these would cease being unexplained miracles.

Answer 10

Not convincing enough for me. Anybody can babble like a fool and claim it is a "tongue." That's nothing divine, or even remotely special. Anyone who thinks otherwise is certainly gullble.

I'm not joking or hating. I'm being realistic.