...and where do I find information on this?
2007-11-16 02:40:56 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
the word lucifer is latin and refers to the planet Venus
the "morning star"
Are you saying God is having a dispute with a planet?
LOL!
Not very omnipotent then is he?
2007-11-16 02:46:31 · answer #1 · answered by 454ramair 3 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Yes! Finally! Someone really wants to know!
Isaiah 14:12-23
Ezekiel 28 (actually u should read whole chap.)
Mathew 15:28-29, 16:18-19,17:-21
Luke 10:17-19, 11:24-28,
Revelation (various chap. but mainly)2:9-10,24; 3:9; 11:7; 12:3-13; 13:1-18; 17:8; 19:19-21
These are the main Biblical Scriptures. There never was an Actual prince or king of Taurus at the times of these wirttings and this is why many scholars agree to The Bibles relatin to the ways of lucifer in the context. When you get down to it you will find lucifer, dragon, serpent and devil are all references to the same entity. Since you did not metion those names in particular I tried to stick with just the main ones. However, you can not use one set without acknowledging the other.
Even in Genisis is the record of his presence on earth. That's in Gen.3. There is also the records of (in my opinion)his presence in Job chap 1 & 2, and then again in 38:4-7
So it is really a matter of putting it all together and getting a full picture.
Also there are some really good books that actually uses some other reference material and has what the Talmud, Gemorah and other Judeo, and Christian writings that were before the 1st cen. I take you to those writings because most of the things writing in the 2nd and 3rd.centuries were proving to be fakes and hoaxes.
God Bless you and protect you as come into His Truth.
2007-11-16 11:07:39 · answer #2 · answered by xgarmstrong 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Lucifer is a mistranslation, actually, and not the name of any Fallen Angel. An accuser is called Satan but that is what we know about that. For all intents and purposes Jesus calls himself a lucifer in revelations, morning star. Isaiah uses the same idea but it is translated lucifer to avoid associating Jesus with the king being taunted in Isaiah.
The new testament speaks of a devil and a satan. The use of satan is adversarial and not a person though it is translated as such. Same with the devil.
Isaiah is talking about a human king.
Ezekiel is talking about a king in Tyre.
Luke 10:18 should read the satan or the adversary. Here I believe it is talking about a nation or something either way, this is not to be taken literally.
Revelations is talking about a Dragon which is more than likely a nation though again, cannot be taken literally as it is a vision.
It is weird but a book or something that is taken figuratively then all of a sudden you take something literally, it won't make sense in the context it is given.
2007-11-16 11:22:13 · answer #3 · answered by Emperor Insania Says Bye! 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Satan was created as a holy angel. Isaiah 14:12 possibly gives Satan’s pre-fall name as Lucifer. Ezekiel 28:12-14 describes Satan as having been created a cherubim, and was apparently the highest created angel. He became arrogant in his beauty and status, and decided he wanted to sit on a throne above that of God (Isaiah 14:13-14; Ezekiel 28:15; 1 Timothy 3:6). Satan’s pride led to his fall. Notice the many “I will…” statements in Isaiah 14:12-15. Because of his sin, God threw Satan out of heaven.
2007-11-16 10:47:50 · answer #4 · answered by Freedom 7 · 6⤊ 1⤋
I cannot quote you with the exact verse in the Bible regarding the dispute...but here is how it happened...Lucifer was the second in command after God the Father...he was almost equal to God except the power to take or Give life...Lucifer became so jealous with this and as soon as the thought came in his heart and mind, god found it already and threw him down on earth and cursed him to walk his entire life on the belly...
2007-11-16 10:46:57 · answer #5 · answered by theglad8er 3 · 2⤊ 4⤋
lucifer became "Proud". Read Ezekiel 28.
2007-11-16 10:56:51 · answer #6 · answered by Seeno†es™ 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Only what is in the bible... And on the children's Old Testament T.V prog I saw a while back which was quite fun. It might still be on youtube - let me have a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws1kvM6gZvE
Wonderful
2007-11-16 10:47:47 · answer #7 · answered by Lynsey W 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Who knows...but if GOD is really all that mighty then couldnt he had just put Lucifer on the corner on time out? It seems that by exhiling him he gave him MORE power especialy that power we give him by being more afraid of him and knowing more about Lucifer than God.
2007-11-16 10:45:37 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 4⤋
Most of what we think we know about that subject comes from Paradise Lost by John Milton.
He created his Lucifer / Satan from the Kabbalah, the Old and New Testament, Greek and Roman classical literature, and his own fertid imagination.
2007-11-16 10:46:11 · answer #9 · answered by L 6 · 4⤊ 5⤋
The Bible tells us that Lucifer rebelled against God and took a third of all the angels with him. He was cast out along with them. The information is found in Isaiah. If it is not in the Bible then it is not credible info.
2007-11-16 10:45:17 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 6⤋