Christians/Creationists, do you agree that our disproving Macro evolution and the big bang...?

Question

Does not make creation true?

What it does is open the door to other scientific theories, and show that, once again, the scientists can be wrong, because they to are human.

This is why I try to disprove the Big Bang and Macro evolution.

But I don't stop there, because that leaves the void empty, I then show evidence for creation, which makes it a guess on how we got here. But I fully admit that disproving their theory doesn't make mine right. Just to point this out to the atheists and others, can we all agree?

Thanks,

- Jessica

The only reason creatio is not a theory is that it is not - at this point to my knowledge - falsifiable.
But you are right.
Thank you.
I'm actually looking to figure out if it is falsifiable and if it could be,
so if anyone has any insight email me.

Obviously no one here got the point of my post -
My point -
TO show that I understand disproving the Big Bang - WOULD NOT make creation automatically true, but would make it something to be considered.

And, how do you know I am not a scientist? This is the internet remember.
:)

John S - you are half wrong half right -
There are two options, but there will always be theories for both of them, if evolution or the big bang are disproved, then they will come up with another one.

:) - when I win the nobel prize and become wealthy I will share my money with my supporters :)
^^ not meant to be serious just my reaction to everyone elses comments, meant to be funny - because I have to specify.

Answer 1

Does lying make you feel better about your religion? Really?

If I had to lie this much to defend my beliefs, I'd really start to have questions about those beliefs.

Answer 2

No, it can not open the door to other scientific theories-because there are none-evolution is the only alternative to creation. The possibilities of alternatives to origins has been exhausted many years ago. The only other idea that has surfaced is a compromise-theistic evolution, the gap theory. But it has no support from scripture or science.
Some have tried to suppose that the earth was "seeded' from another planet. But the basic question remains-"where did they come from, and how did they get there, and how did they originate".
No, I am afraid that there are only 2 alternatives:
1. this universe made itself
2. this universe was made by some external power
It can only be one or the other.

Answer 3

Macroevolution has never been observed, according to some of the top evolutionists.

I would almost agree with you that disproving evolution doesn't prove creation, but there are really only 2 basic beliefs on how we got here, creation and evolution.

Everything else is just a mixture of the two. Evolutionist D.J. Futuyma said so in his recent book.

Answer 4

Well, if you come up with any legitimate evidence to show against the theory of evolution, or macro-evolution, then scientists will be more than happy to look at it.

Do you also realize that if you can even find one single piece of legitimate evidence pointing in any direction OTHER than evolution, then scientists would have to scrap the entire theory?

No one has been able to do this so far. If you can, then you will probably win the Nobel Prize, and be a very, very wealthy woman.

Answer 5

If you ask me (and i guess you did in a round about way) "Truth" is very over rated. What's true and what's NOT true, what's theory and fact and what's faith and hope....even the believer and the atheist, these opposites are really like left-hand-and-right-hand. Two sides of the same coin. Come to think of it, atheists set themselves up by claiming to be atheists, because "atheism" exists in contrast to "believing", and faith. That's why I cant in all honesty say that i am, or i am NOT, anything. Whether it's the Big Bang theory, or the big GANG bang theory, whether it's a void, or an avoidance technique, whether it's a theory, a belief, a fanciful mythology of wishful thinking, substance abuse and unemployment: either way, or NO way.....the answer to your last question, which is the most IMPORTANT question "can we all agree?" the answer to that is an absolute NO! I wish I could make it more emphatic!

Answer 6

Any scientist would absolutely love to disprove a major, well-established theory like the Theory of Evolution or the Big Bang Theory. Such a disproof would almost certainly result in world-wide acclaim and a Nobel Prize. In fact, most scientists would be glad to chip away at even a small aspect of one of these theories---that would win a Professorship at a major University. Scientists constantly question their theories---that is part of what science is all about. Science is a self-correcting approach to truth about the material world.

The trouble is, it's not that easy. Both the Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang Theory are supported by thousands of tests and observations. Most of those little facts and observations either would need to be shown to be wrong (that is, to be errors) or would need alternate explanations. Such revolutions have happened in science, but they are rare. For example, Newton's theory of gravity was superceded by Einstein's theory of gravity. But Newton's theory was correct about a lot of things, and therefore had a lot of support. In order to supplant it, Einstein had to show that his theory expained all those observations (the motions of the planets, for example) as well as some additional observations (small errors in the motion of Mercury, the bending of light around the Sun) that Newton's theory could not explain.

Answer 7

To me, Jessica, as a very believing Christian, I lack the details to prove or disprove the Big Bang thing, or evolution, BUT, I don't think the truth or falsity of either of those theories or ideas or "proven facts" does ANYTHING to disprove what the Bible says. To me, they move towards simply detailing what the Bible already says. If the "scientists" want to try to retrace God's footsteps, more power to 'em, no matter how futile their efforts may be. Every new "discovery" of theirs is just like one more step, however accurate or inaccurate, in trying to find God, whether they see that or not, so, let 'em be in their futile and oftentimes funny attempts to "prove" they understand life more than God does. Now THAT'S a laugh!! You and I can sit back and already know, without having to prove, that God is the origin of EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY, and we don't have to play their very time consuming and frustrating and IMMENSELY EXPENSIVE game of trying to show up God. I can't help but chuckle at that prospect. Enjoy the humor of their attempts. Sometimes they do discover some interesting stuff, and sometimes it's just plain laughable. It's a pathetic comedy show, but it is worth a laugh, so, let them expend the energy and money to discover the details or origin of God. It'll be a never ending quest for them. Could you imagine if, by chance, or "scientific discovery" that, in all their efforts to come to the origin of the universe, they ACTUALLY came face to face with God Himself. Now THAT would be a shocker, and silence them forever, except to praise Him and fear Him. God Bless you, and enjoy the humor of their efforts.

Answer 8

Well, do not try and prove Evolution. Evolution was only thought of 150 years ago, Creation has been around much longer. I do believe in the Creationist theory and movement. In this kind of forum all are welcome to their ideas. I

There are answers on Evolution by Dr. Kent Hovind. http://www.drdino.com/

It does pain me to see the anger by others when Evolution is challenged. Where is the objectivity and perspective needed to be a good scientist? Science is being challenged all the time. It is only when a belief in God enters the picture that suddenly we are all "wacko's and dummies", that is one of the milder quotes I have run across on some sites....

I Praise God for science, it is keeping me alive, but evolution is not the answer, not the big bang. Everything in life is too intricate to have " evolved from one cell" I always like to ask this question. ( shades of Dr. Frankenstein here) HOW do you create life in the test tube without using a living DNA sample. No one to this date can create life, so until they do, I am keeping my faith.

My prayers and love go to all who are searching for the truth, be it in creation or evolution. If you still feel the need to swear and damn Christians so be it. Christ went through far worse for all mankind. My suffering and the suffering of others is nothing compared to His.

Ask yourself why do you react so violently when someone challenges the Big Bang theory or Evolution? Where is your objectivity and calmness. God could be speaking to your heart.

And Yes, I do dare say. God bless and have a great day.

Answer 9

All you have proved is that the ego/innovations can't determine religious issues, only as we've been instructed with the aid of people who've seen in the process the veil of the visual attraction of time and area. whilst one is discussing the visual attraction of Substance, (which continually keeps to be unseen) it may be remembered that the middle from which 'IT' began is the place ever one is looking from. it began ideal right here and proper now and which would be actual till finally the tip of time.... and area. there is just one place that could no longer be gotten to from the place we are, can't be arrived at with the aid of employing reason, the ego/innovations of mortal being. it may only be arrived at from unseen Substance that's the beginning place upon which the apparent stands. it is the factor and purpose of religious attempt, to rouse in that state of being that perceives needless to say the gentle that shines interior the darkness yet which the darkness would not see. till then we live with our back to the gentle and commenting on the shadows that we forged on the wall of the fall down which we are certain. Namaste'

Answer 10

If you are looking for proof that the Earth was created by either theory you are wasting your time. There is no evidence for either. Both beliefs have books with their sets of laws. Evolution books claim Charles Darwin and other scientists have created scientific laws that "prove" their theory of evolution. The Bible claims to contain God's laws and "proof" of the Earth being create by a Creator. When it comes down to it the last part is faith. Either you choose to believe evolution or you choose to believe in Creation. You will not find DNA or particle samples that were from the Big Bang to prove it as fact. You will not find a Holy Grail or Jesus' corpse in a tomb to prove/disprove the Bible. All in all, it's all about faith. As for me, my faith is in God. If I'm wrong then I will simply cease to exist. If I'm right I will go to Heaven and not have to face the fiery pit of Hell. I'd rather simply not exist than to spend eternity in a lake of fire.

Answer 11

Well there Jessica the scientists have now proved that a godlike particle exists on Earth as well as Mars, unfortunately for the our Moon none has been discovered from the rocks gathered there for comparison.

The godlike particle is part of the atom structure that enables moister to form. Thus this earth being the right distances from the Sun was able to produce moister into the carbon air. This intern created rain and filled the hollows of the earth so one cell micro organisms could grow life.

Test in the laboratories have proved beyond reasonable doubt that this is so.

In my conclusion is this believe in what you want it is your life and nobody else's, so enjoy life and God bless you.