what FACTS make the bible ture?

Question

talked to my christian mother today and we got in a disagreement about where the bible is true....she said that there are many facts that make the bible true and that i should find someone that has studied and went to school to learn about the blibe. she said that great minds have tried to disprove the bible and ended up becoming christian....whats you take on this? I find it hard to believe that the bible is Gods word when so many Men have had their hands on it.... just looking for facts of why it IS or ISNT true

Answer 1

The bible is "true" in that it has been written. But it was written many years after the fact, most of the gospels were written 20 to 120 years after Jesus death and much of the rest was written up to 325 years later, and when they compiled the bible they VOTED on what was to be god's word. They included one piece by Mark, since it was divinely inspired by god, but appently the 3 other works by Mark were not so divinely inspired and they didn't include them. There were approx. 30 "gospels" but they only voted on 4 to include. Most if not all of what has been included in the bible was written by people who never knew Jesus and what was voted on was what would help consolodate an empire under Constantine. What was not included and they tried to destroy was the "gospels" of Thomas and Mary Magedalene. They said that god and the kindom of heaven is within you not in a church, but that doesn't consolodate people or make the church money. Your mother is right in that some people have studied the bible and become christian but hundreds of times more people have studied the bible and have become agnostic or atheist. Part of it has to do with how the church has manipulated the bible. Each Pope put in or took out his own 2 cents. Pope Alexander the 6th had sex with his mother, had sex with many concubines, had a daughter with one of them and then had sex with his daughter - Lucrecia Borgia. What do you think he added or removed. Pope Gregory the Great decread that anyone who has sex will never enter heaven. Only the beasts of the field had sex. If you chose to have children then you made a choice of having children or entering heaven. What was his 2 cents that he put in the bible. Those lists go on and on. Good luck.

Answer 2

SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD

Science and the Bible do not contradict one another! As a matter of fact, true science proves the existence of God. For instance, the
DNA code contains libraries with volumes of structured information
that could not have come into existence through random chance. It
defies the law of probability.

The case for evolution collapses under Biblical numerics. This was
the brainchild of atheist turn Christian, Dr. Ivan Panin. This
Russian mathematical genius realized that an infinite network of
sevens, multiples of sevens and powers of sevens permeate the wholeof the Bible. As you perhaps know, seven is the God's number ofspiritual perfection. There is a pattern of sevens that extends from the Hebrew Old Testament to the Greek New Testament. This is irrefutable evidence that the Bible is the inspired word of God.

The case for evolution and the Big Bang collapses under biblical
numerics. What was discovered by this scholar was that over 30
distinct patterns of sevens supported the creationist's contention
of Genesis1:1, " In the beginning God created the heavens and the
earth." This observation goes against the evolutionist's theory that
the universe evolved from a chaotic Big Bang. In the examples below, look at the amazing discovery supporting instantaneous creatiuon and notice the selected multiples of sevens.

"IN THE BEGINNING, GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH" (GENESIS
1:1).

1. Genesis 1:1 consist of seven Hebrew words

2. These seven words have 28 (7x4) Hebrew letters.

3. " In the beginning" consists of 14 letters(7x2) letters.

4. The last four words "heaven and earth" have 14 (7x2) letters.

5. The Fourth and fifith words " heaven and earh " have 14 (7x2)
letters.

6. The three key words: "God, Heaven and Earth" have 14 (7x2)
letters.

7. The remaining number of words consists of 14 ( 7x2) letters.

8. The middle word is flanked by two other seven letter words.

9 The sum of the numberical value of the letters of God, heaven and
earth is 777 (7x111). Personally checked by my calculator!

10. The sum of the first and the last letters of the first and last
words is 497 (7x71). Personally checked by my Calculator!

Answer 3

The ONLY fact is that:

Those who believe in the bible will uphold the "reality" of the bible.

Those who do not believe in the bible will do likewise for the opposite idea.

Which is right? Good question!!

Only thing I can suggest is study the issue yourself and come to your own conclusion.

My own opinion is that anything written by so many men surely carries the author's opinion, bias agendas, and interpretations, therefore, unless all of them were god, and am sure that was impossible, then the logical deduction would be that the bible is based on men's words, not god's, and therefre bound to have imperfections which negates the belief that the bible is 100 % true


Here are a few sites that might help, and caution .... dont believe 100% everything you read.


http://www.greenwych.ca/bible-a.htm

http://www.etymonline.com/columns/fallacy.htm

http://danielle-movie.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-970.html

http://www.hindujagruti.org/activities/campaigns/religious/christianity/fallacies.php

http://www.deism.com/biblevotes.htm


I have been studying this very same issue for many years and I am still not convinced that the bible is THE real thing, but that is my experience, you must have your own experience to formulate your owm opinion.

Answer 4

Simple fact - the bible has fewer true facts in it than any fiction novel written in an historical setting.

Take for instance the fact that Jesus was supposed to have been a big problem to the Romans. Strangely there is not one single mention of him in the historical record. BUT - there were a number of Jews at that time claiming to be the Messiah and they are all well documented in the Roman record.

Christianity is a faith. Those with a weak faith seek proof!!!!

If the supposition in the question is true then if you seek to disprove the spaghetti monster what religion do you end up with?

Yet another desperate Christian myth!!!!!!

Answer 5

I grew up as a christian hearing, and believing, the same thing. When I started to question my faith I thought that reviewing the evidence for the Bible would help so I started to research it. Much to my surprise, there is very little, if any, evidence to support any of the miraculous events recorded in the bible.

Edit:
Creation is the easy one, there is overwhelming evidence for evolution and none for creation.
Flood: No evidence whatsoever. Many problems with the story. Other cultures' flood stories date to different times and are only similar in the element of a flood.
Exodus: No reference in Egyptian documents of anything close to this story or the 200 to 400 years of history around it. Well know sites on the route out of Egypt have been excavated with no results.
Sun stopping and moving backward: no other civilization existing at the time recorded anything similar.
Star of Bethlehem: No other civilization existing at the time recorded anything similar.
Events around Jesus' death: No first hand or contemporary record of these events. The temple curtain was not recorded as being destroyed until 70 CE.
Jesus: Given the second hand evidence, it would not be surprising if he had existed, but there is no first hand or contemporary confirmation of his existence nor of his teaching.

Edit 2:
Remain skeptical and objective. A faith built on blindly accepting stories is just a blind faith. Only by objectively evaluating the evidence can you determine the true facts.

Edit 3:
The one thing the Bible is fairly accurate about is geographic locations and other civilizations. This in of itself does not verify that it's miraculous events are true; consider any "real life" fiction, any of the recorded locations and countries are likely to be based on real ones, this does not mean that the story itself is real.

Note: I approached my research objectively, but with the desire to see the Bible proved, not as if the Bible was a load of hooey.

Last edit:
Yes the existence of Pilate has been confirmed, and there is a reference to David's Kingdom, once again these do not by themselves mean that David actually slew a giant any more than George Washington existing means that he chopped down a cherry tree.

Answer 6

I find that people looking for facts often are predisposed to believing the bible is a bunch of hooey. I hope that's not the angle from which you approach this question.

Yes, many who set out to disprove the bible come to the realization that it is the true word of God, despite the fact that it was written by men. God's inspiration is alive and well.

The easiest way to prove the authenticity of the bible is to compare architectural and geographical data in the bible with the many hundreds of archaeological discoveries over the past 150 years or so. The more we dig, the more accuracy we find in the bible.

Of course that is just one way to go about things. The bible is self-verifying, meaning that a particular passage in one book will be verified in another book, often written in a different time period by a different author from the first.

Finding this stuff does take great discernment, which is why Christians see things others do not. That's the Holy Spirit at work again.

Answer 7

--HERE ARE some of thousands of proofs by people of more than ordinary understanding in their many fields of expertise:

*** g84 3/22 Why Should I Read the Bible? ***

THAT AMAZING BOOK CALLED THE BIBLE

What other book:

—was written by some 40 men from several countries on three different continents in three languages over a period of 1,600 years?
-- —has inspired some of the world’s greatest art, literature, music and architecture, while also having a profound influence on law?
-- —mentions scientific truths discovered and utilized by man only centuries later?
-- —contains hundreds of prophecies already fulfilled and a number of others now undergoing fulfillment?
***WOULD IT NOT BE WORTH WHILE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT?
**HOW OTHERS HAVE FELT ABOUT THE BIBLE

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.”—Patrick Henry, American statesman

“I am convinced that the Bible becomes even more beautiful the more one understands it. Let culture and science go on advancing, and the mind progress as it may, it will never go beyond the elevation and moral culture of Christianity, as it glistens and shines forth in the Gospels.”—Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer

“I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatever.”—Sir Isaac Newton, British scientist

“ . . . probably the most influential collection of books in human history. Whatever one may think of the Bible’s contents, its role in the development of western culture and in the evolution of many eastern cultures makes at least some acquaintance with its literature and history an indispensable mark of the educated man.”—The Encyclopædia Britannica

“It is the best book that ever was or will be in the world, because it teaches you the best lessons by which any human creature who tries to be truthful and faithful can possibly be guided.”—Charles Dickens, English author

=========UPDATE========

--TO THOSE who claim that archaeology disproves the Bible, many times--PLEASE NOTE:

*** ce chap. 17 p. 214 par. 34 Can You Trust the Bible? ***
---. The former director of the British Museum, Frederic Kenyon, wrote: “Archæology has not yet said its last word; but the results already achieved confirm what faith would suggest, that the Bible can do nothing but gain from an increase of knowledge.
---”32 And the well-known archaeologist Nelson Glueck said: “It may be stated categorically that NO ARCHAEOLOGICAL DISCOVERY (my caps) has ever controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archaeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible.”

Answer 8

It depends on what you mean by "true".

It is quite possible for the Bible to be "true" as a guide to spiritual development, and philosophical basis for living a good, decent life, without it being a factual account of historical events.

The idea that it's a good idea to treat others as you would have others treat you can remain a perfectly good, even noble truth, even if a story about some guy loading two of every animal on a boat aren't completely and totally historically accurate.

The historical accuracy of certain elements of the Bible (especially the Creation story in Genesis) are incompatible with observed physical evidence of the universe around us, but that in no way diminishes the truth that it's a bad idea to kill other people.

Answer 9

There is so many. The bible is full of prophecy. In fact 1/3rd if the bible is prophecy and all has come true or taking place as we speak. There are too many scietific facts in bible this could be long so I'll name one small example: the sun;
The Sun's Movement


Psalm 19:4-6: "In them has He set a tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race. His [the sun's] going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof."

bible critics have scoffed at these verses, saying that they teach that the sun revolves around the earth. Science told them that the sun was stationary. Then they discovered that the sun is in fact moving through space at approximately 600,000 miles per hour. It is traveling through the heavens and has a "circuit" just as the Bible says. It is estimated that its circuit is so large, it would take 200 million years to complete one orbit.

Answer 10

Some portions of the Bible are accurate. A great deal of it has been adjusted over the years to conform with orthodoxy, however.

For example, in order for Jesus, a Nazarene, to end up being born in Bethlehem, to conform with prophecy, Matthew and Luke use different reasons for why he was there in the first place. Luke says that he was born when Quirinius was governor of Syria, putting his birth after 6 AD. Matthew says he was born when Herod was king in Judaea, putting his birth before 4 BC. Someone can't add.