A question for all Atheists.?

Question

It is historical fact that Nero started to pursecute Christians around 60 ad. This would mean that according to you most of the books were not composed yet, but rather tales created just a few years before. If this were true, why would the authors or creaters of the tale have allowed themselves and their friends to die for a big lie? Obviously they weren't getting rich off of it and if it was a joke a lot of people were in fact being killed? Why would they have allowed the lie to continue? Couldn't the originial authors or tale creators get together and stop it?

Laz, if they knew that it was a made up story then why die for it. If they believed it to be true, then they would know because it happened in their lifetime. It was the actual truth that Jesus rose from the grave.

Answer 1

You are asking for a logical answer to an illogical position. Atheism is an indefensible position(you cannot prove a negative absolute) and therefore to me a highly illogical
position.
I Cr 13;8a

Answer 2

Before Constantine really screwed up the Roman empire Christians were lying about their religion.

Big f***ing deal that a few idiots decided that they'd be happy to be tortured and killed for their false religion.

There was probably no original author for much of the bible anyway (either testament) but just bits and pieces handed down orally, incorrectly translated (young women ≠ virgin) between languages and then written as allegories. The people who did write the things down were probably not in Rome anyway.

There's also a lot of question about the reliability of historical accounts of Nero, especially whether he actually did some of the really tyrannical things that are claimed.

Answer 3

I think you need to learn a little more history.

Judea was an occupied land under authoritarian rule with the complicity of the Hebrew king. This led to seditious factions opposed to both sides. Most of the time these factions were roundly ignored; sometimes they were rounded up and eliminated.

Early Christians would almost certainly today be treated as terrorist groups. The main reason that they drew attention around 60 AD is that their ideaology started to take root amonst the Roman guards.

As in Iraq today, many of these were not Roman born but were Judean mercenaries. In other words they were local security forces coopted by money.

The first attempt to quash this was persecution. Later, of course, the Empire split, and the more successful half handled the issue by instead converting the state to Christianity. Hence Chrisitianity came to be the driving force behind almost 15 centuries of religiously motivated oppression and authoritarian rule, initially centred on Constantinople (now Istanbul) and later Rome. Millions were killed in its name.

Much of this period is rightly known as The Dark Ages - you can easily see why.

Answer 4

Interesting you mention booKs and taLes, the sheeple had and still have a propensity to have to believe in something, it gives people order and direction. The extreme beliefs in a higher (whatever) is a well documented historical fact also, and it happened in places and eras that never were exposed to the Middle East GODS. Getting back to your persecuted, this also isn't new, it has and still happens today, its the evolutionary animal in all of us. In fairness to Christians of the time you speak of I would rather believe in the variation of the Abraham thing, than believe that Nero was God. As far as putting a stop to it, wwweelll you touched on a whole other problem with believing in GODS. please wake up

Answer 5

The persecution was on purpose to bring in xianity as the state religion to control the sheep. Persecution was the key to it all. The joke was on the xians. They fell for a lie, a false religion. The higher ups were making a fortune off this new religion which was part of the reason they started xianity. Faith requires blind followers. Just what they wanted. Guilt filled sheople./

Answer 6

They believed the "big lie" as you called it, and that belief led ultimately to the composition of the books.

The "getting rich off it" happened a bit later, when Constantine made Christianity the official religion of Rome.

Answer 7

David Koresh's followers died for him, too. And so did Jim Jones' followers. Heaven's gate. Need I say more.

The willingness of people dying for their beliefs does nothing to prove that it is true. All it proves is that people (even in mass numbers) can be gullible and devout.

That hardly made either one of these "true" did it? And it was in their lifetime... What do you think about that.

Answer 8

Do you go in to the doctor to convince you what is wrong, so the only way to fix 'up' is to have surgery?
Until more people got into another opinion subjected anger. Who would want a disability that could bring an earlier death.

Answer 9

The person that made that nonsense up, to control the tribe, was long dead by then.
And the new chief, just kept it going.
And Nero, did not give them much choice. He found out where they were hiding, and helped them to see ''his'' truth..

Answer 10

What about all those people who participated in the mass suicide with Jim Jones? They died for their beliefs which were clearly false...why? Because they were brainwashed into believing that what he taught was true. That's what cults do.