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John5:22For the Father judgeth no man.John 8:15(Jesus talking to the Pharisees)-
Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Please don't cite any opinion of Paul-(AKA Saul the murderer)

2007-11-15 12:12:34 · 10 answers · asked by huffyb 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I'm constantly amazed the lengths Christians will go to to refute the teachings of Christ!!

2007-11-15 12:27:34 · update #1

10 answers

well duh...

if there was no judgement day, why then worry about sin and all of that?

I as a devout Xian need for others to be roiled in sin so I and my elite crew of self proclaimed Fair You See's can lord over the piteous wicked from my lofty perch of High Moral Ground of heaven

2007-11-15 17:01:56 · answer #1 · answered by voice_of_reason 6 · 0 1

John 5:22 states that Jesus has been given the potential for judging, Nothing here is said in this passage about the actualization of the judging, which judgement will take place at the end of the world.

In John 8:15, the context clearly indicates that Jesus' words "I pass judgement on no one" are to be construed as saying that He does not pass the earthly, casuistic, and superficial judgements that the Pharisees do.

2007-11-15 12:16:36 · answer #2 · answered by D2T 3 · 1 0

Huffy,

You've got to read the whole passage to understand. We can't take things out of context and expect it to jive with the rest of God's Word.

Equality with God in Authority

John 5:22, 23 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

I Am the Light of the World statement

John 8:14-18 Jesus answered and said to them (Pharisees), "Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going but you do not know where I come from and where I am going. 15 You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one. 16 And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent Me. 17 It is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am One who bears witness of Myself, and the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me."

John 8:14-18 These verses give 3 reasons why Jesus' witness was true: 1) Jesus knew His origin and destiny while the Jews wee ignorant even of basic spiritual truths, making their judgment limited and superficial (vv. 14, 15); 2) the intimate union of the Son with the Father guaranteed the truth of the Son's witness (v. 15), and 3) the Father and Son witnessed harmoniously together regarding the identiy of the Son (vv 17, 18).

Which "Judgment Day" are you referring to?

Judgment of the Gentiles?
Matthew 25:31-46 You can read for yourself but I'll elaborate some for your understanding.
This speaks of the earthly reign of Christ described in Rev. 20:4-6. The judgment described here in vv. 32-46 is different from the Great White Throne judgment of Rev. 20:11-15. This judgment precedes Christ's milleninial reign, and the subjects seem to be only those who are alive at His coming. This is sometimes referred as the judgment of the nations, but His verdicts address individuals in the nations, not the nations as a whole (cf. v.46).

The Day of the Lord?
II Peter 3:1013 Again read for yourself. I would elaborate more this but I'm really very tired and there's a lot to say. Maybe I'll catch you up to speed on this tomorrow.

The Great White Throne judgment?
Rev. 20:11-15 Read for yourself.
vv. 11-15 These verses describe the final judgment of all the unbelievers of all ages (Matt. 10:15; 11:22-24; 12:36, 41, 42; Luke 10:14; John 12:48; Acts 17:31; 24:25; Rom. 2:5, 16; Heb. 9:27; II Pet. 2:9; 3:7; Jude 6). Our Lord referred to this event as the "resurrection of condemnation" (John 5:29). This judgment takes place in the indescribable void between the end of the present universe (v. 11) and the creation of the new heaven and earth (21:1).

2007-11-15 15:47:32 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

1John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.


2Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:


Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

2007-11-15 12:21:51 · answer #4 · answered by Molly 6 · 2 0

Perhaps you should read what Christ preached before stating so authoritatively what you do!

Christ himself said the following:
John 3:17-21,
For God has not sent his Son into the world that he may judge the world, but that the world may be saved through him.

18He that believes on him is not judged:

but he that believes not has been already judged, because he has not believed on the name of the only-begotten Son of God.

19And this is the judgment, that light is come into the world, and men have loved darkness rather than light; for their works were evil. 20For every one that does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light that his works may not be shewn as they are; 21but he that practises the truth comes to the light, that his works may be manifested that they have been wrought in God. (Darby)

Also, Revelation which Christ, the glorified, gave to John says this:
"And I saw a great white throne and the one seated on it. From before him the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life.

And the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them,

and they were judged individually according to their deeds. 14 And death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire. 15

Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire."

Come again, please! Anytime!
And your claim about Paul is also refuted by Peter who writes with approval about Paul and his letters.

If you are Muslim, read these two pages:
http://www.bythebible.page.tl/Jesus-The-Man.htm
http://bythebible.page.tl/Jesus-And-Moses.htm

2007-11-15 12:58:16 · answer #5 · answered by Fuzzy 7 · 0 0

The understand God says that judgment starts whilst Jesus returns he brings his rewards with him and the saints would be judged on the marriage supper of the Lamb. however the white throne judgment is for all that have died out edge of Jesus Christ and the books would be opened and all that they've completed is recorded in those books and people who's call isn't written interior the e book of existence would be forged into the lake of fire. Peace.

2016-10-16 21:48:02 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Psalm 1
5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.

6 For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked will perish.


Aren't you a murderer too?

2007-11-15 12:19:53 · answer #7 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 0 0

I apply the blood of Jesus to your mind and I ask God to come into your life, and after he does you will never be the same.

2007-11-15 12:20:29 · answer #8 · answered by butterfly 3 · 0 0

their advertising jerks.

2007-11-15 15:48:05 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Simple, they will have company!

2007-11-15 12:15:11 · answer #10 · answered by Jim! 5 · 1 2

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