I do not mean to offend any Christians by asking this Question. I have been studying the Bible for some time and would like you to find me a verse where Jesus (peace be upon him) himself has said/stated that he is the son of God. I know it has been said in a third person, many CALLED him son of God and Jesus has said ''You say that I am'' but that isnt the same thing as Jesus (peace be upon him) saying he himself is. Please could you clarify on this.
Mark 1:35
Gabriel says Jesus will be “called the son of God” and he would be “given the Throne of David” to “rule the House of Jacob forever.”
Luke 3:36
“Enos was the son of Seth, and Seth was the son of Adam, and Adam was the son of God.”
Note: Adam, not Jesus, is listed in this genealogy of Jesus as the son of God, not Jesus.
Later on, the priests are asking Jesus, peace be upon him, if he claims to be the son of God. He tells them in fact, it is they who are making this claim.
“You say that I am.”
Gospel of John contains the greatest number of references to “son of God.”
Jesus, speaking in the third person talked about the “Son of God” in John 3:17
John 5:24
John 11:4
John 11:27
Martha, one of the followers, calls Jesus, peace be upon him, “The Messiah, the Son of God”
John 20:31 he is called “The Messiah, the Son of God.”
But no verse makes the exact statement “Jesus is the Son of God and as such he is divine or God.”
2007-11-15
11:46:15
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None of you have still showed me a chapter or verse number that shows me that Jesus has himself said he is the Son of God!
Rev-Albert, can you get me a verse number for your quote
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" You shall die in your sins if you believe not that I am He (the messiah)". - Jesus Christ
By the way i do believe in Jesus but not as the Son of God.
2007-11-15
11:58:09 ·
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Ashliegh; Thanx for you interest but again you still havent qouted what im looking for.
here are your quotes
John 13:31
When he had left, Jesus said, Now is the Son of Man glorified! ***NOTE SON OF MAN
John 20:31 (Whole Chapter)
But these are written (recorded) in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ (the Anointed One), the Son of God …… [Ps 2:7, 12 ] *** IT WAS SAID ABOUT HIM, NOT FROM HIM.
1 John 5:5
Who is it that is victorious over [that conquers] the world but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God…***AGAIN NOT FROM JESUS
1 John 5:20 (Whole Chapter)
And we [have seen and] know [positively] that the Son of God has [actually] come to this world and has given us understanding and insight [progressively] to perceive (recognize) and come to know better and more clearly Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true--in His Son Jesus Christ (the Messiah). This [Man] is the true God and Life eternal. *** THE MESSIAH. AGAIN THIS IS ABOUT JESUS NOT HIS
2007-11-15
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update #2
Jesus never said it
2007-11-15 11:48:34
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answered by grandfather raven 7
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Get a Jewish translation Bible and at least you might get the names right. The Bible is made up of two main jewish historical books the Torah and the Tanak. The geneology was important because Jesus was really the king of the Jews he wasn't also a simple carpender, by the age of nine he was taught in the temple, because he posed knowledge that no boy his age had. He became a rabbi (a teacher) and taught and performed many miracles many of which had to be accounted for at least three times, before they were entered into the books as historical fact.
He was dead 3 days by then anyone would be magot food and it's hot there too and nasty so the stench would be unbearable. The covering they used to wrap him in were layers of heavy linen covered in thick sap. Also the gaurds gaurding the tomb would have been killed and their families killed if they had abandoned their post. So he would have to do a major david copperfield act to pull that one off. The stone that covered the tomb also weighed over a ton so it took more than one person to move it.
So Jesus was not just a simple man what else was he, but the son of the one true God the creator of the universe. No book was ever written at that time about small things and in that time words were not wasted on small people. The written word was percious so to was Jesus a man that suffered greatly for no earthly good, but that rose from the grave and defied death and the earthquaked when he was resurected. Read it again it really is a great story and what makes it better it was true.
2007-11-15 12:25:56
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answered by Vivianna 4
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This is one of the strange points about the New Testament. There is a lot of effort by the disciplines to clothe Jesus as the son of God, but he makes no effort to do this himself. He does make references to being like others - so is he less divine or are we all children of God - hmmm. Universalists sent to separate here on several points. Of course there is the issue of "the divine guidance in the creation of the Bible" for some people versus the amount of material borrowed from earlier religions to bolster the claims of the disciples of his divinity. Jesus did not seem to think his status was the point - he was trying to talk about a lot of really important things but his origin did not seem to be one of them. I think that says a lot right there. The Jeffersonian Study is where one takes only the words of Jesus from the New Testament and looks at them as the main guide in what Jesus was trying to say - it is an interesting exercise if you are not of the "divine guidance" belief. Personally, I find a lot of material in the Bible that is clearly plagarized (and I am not talking about just the Old Testament ) - did God want those pieces in there? Jesus is real, but some of the marketing obviously got a little out of hand - so where do you draw the line?
2007-11-15 11:58:30
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answered by Amy R 7
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Better re-read the Bible... Jesus claimed to be the I AM (John 8:58), which is the same way God identified Himself to Moses. Jesus further identified Himself as the Father in John 14. Isaiah prophesied the Messiah would be both God and Father. (9:6) Paul said that all the fullness of the Godhead is in Jesus (Col. 2:9) The first chapter of John's gospel tells us that the God who created the universe became flesh. (John 1:1-14) Edit @ Seasons Greetings: that information about the Shema is wrong. That info about echad and yachid is quite popular in some Christian circles, but is not true. I've taught Hebrew since 1979. I assure you that echad is the proper word for one, and does not have any compound property to it. Yachid means alone, lonely, or single, and implies a neediness or incompleteness that cannot apply to God.
2016-05-23 08:13:12
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answered by pauletta 3
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That's a great question. I will first answer your question with Jesus' favorite designation of Himself, He often referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" which is a Messianic title from Daniel 7:13. Son of Man and Son of God are two titles of Jesus. (others are Son of David, Christ (Messiah), the Last Adam, Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, Elect One, Holy One, the Branch, Seed of Abraham, etc.).
As far as the direct first reference to Son of God goes, we know that his closest followers hailed Him as the Son of God as well as his fierest enemies charging Him with blasphemy for making that claim.
Did both his allies and enemies miss the point hearing Him speak directly? How likely is that? I suppose it is possible but the likelihood of that happening decreases when you consider that both heard Him speak at the same encounter and also independently of each other.
The disciples were not around when the high priest accused Jesus of blasphemy for directly claiming to be the Son of God. Matthew 26:62-67.
"Tell us plainly if you are the Christ, the Son of God!" Jesus did not say "maybe" or "you're getting close" or "no, I'm only a prophet, teacher, or Sunday School leader" He said "It is as you said." Obvious YES. We know they understood what He said because the Sanhedrin did not say, "He dodged this one with a politically correct answer" instead the high priest tore his clothes tore his clothes and said "He has spoken blasphemy, we don't need any more witnesses!" Then they struck Him and mocked Him. Do you think they would have done that if all He was claiming for Himself was that he was a human prophet of God?
In John 10:30-33 when Jesus said "I and the Father are one." the Jews wanted to kill Him on the spot for making that statement.
In Matthew 16:16-17, Jesus asked His disciples a question," who do men say that I am?" they gave some answers of what people were saying. Then Jesus asked them directly, but who do you say that I am? Peter said, "you are the Christ, the son of the living God." Jesus could have said, no Peter, I am not, I am really just a prophet, there is only God the Father in heaven. No, Jesus said "Blessed are you for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father in heaven." He commended Peter for saying that, not rebuked Him.
The great CS Lewis who converted to Christ from atheism said, there are only three conclusion one can draw from the gospels concerning who Jesus is. He is either a liar, a lunatic, or Lord. The disciples understood it, Jesus' enemies understood it, the early church understood it. The epistles of Paul are replete with references uplifting the exalted Christ. No one can say the things Jesus said, or do the things Jesus did and not be God in human flesh. He was truly the "fullness of the Godhead bodily." (Colossians 2:9).
Hope this helps my friend. God bless you.
2007-11-15 12:27:00
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answered by Anonymous
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what Bible are you looking at!
John 13:31 (Whole Chapter)
When he had left, Jesus said, Now is the Son of Man glorified! [Now He has achieved His glory, His honor, His exaltation!] And God has been glorified through and in Him.
John 20:31 (Whole Chapter)
But these are written (recorded) in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ (the Anointed One), the Son of God, and that through believing and cleaving to and trusting and relying upon Him you may have life through (in) His name [ [Hermann Cremer, Biblico-Theological Lexicon.] through Who He is]. [Ps 2:7, 12 ]
I hope you have a strong faith.
1 John 5:5 (Whole Chapter)
Who is it that is victorious over [that conquers] the world but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God [who adheres to, trusts in, and relies on that fact]?
1 John 5:20 (Whole Chapter)
And we [have seen and] know [positively] that the Son of God has [actually] come to this world and has given us understanding and insight [progressively] to perceive (recognize) and come to know better and more clearly Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true--in His Son Jesus Christ (the Messiah). This [Man] is the true God and Life eternal.
Luke 22:70 (Whole Chapter)
And they all said, You are the Son of God, then? And He said to them, [Joseph Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon.] It is just as you say; I AM.
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2007-11-15 11:59:14
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answered by Ashleigh M 2
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you need to remember that "I am" is what God said to moses when Moses asked the name of the burning bush. "I am" meaning "yahweh" which means God.
John 18: 3 - 9
Therefore Judas took the soldier band and officers of the chief priests and of the pharisees and came there with torches and lamps and weapons. Jesus, therefore, knowing all the things coming upon him, went forth and said to them: "whom are you looking for?" They answered him: "Jesus the Nazareene." He said to them: "I am (he)." Now Judas, his betrayer, was also standing with them. However, when he said to them: "I am (he)," they drew back and fell to the groud. Therefore he asked them again: "whom are you looking for?" Jesus answered: "I told you I am (he). If therefore, it is I you are looking for, let these go"; in order that the word might be fulfilled which he said: "of those whom you have given me I have not lost a single one."
In this passage he says that he is God twice. In fact the soldiers fall to the ground because they know they are in the presence of God.
One thing that I think you are missings is the context of this passage. Everybody in this passage was Jewish. Good Jews knew their scripture, so they knew what Jesus meant when he said "I am". They knew the first time that it appeared in the scriptures and the importance of it. Yahweh was not something that first century Jews threw around, it was one of the most holy words, so holy that they took out the vowels so people couldn't pronouce it.
Furthermore all of the stories (parables) that Jesus tells all have an importance. It is more than a story.
Also look at when Jesus is standing trial, him not denying that he is the Messiah, or not denying that he was God was just as bad as saying that he was God. Make sense?
2007-11-15 12:12:55
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answered by treppab 4
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Your best source for the Son of God issue is the JV's. They can cite this stuff off the top of their heads. Son of God actually implies a share in the divinity, but they try to interpret the word divinity as the 2nd meaning in a dictionary. But I won't let them off the hook insisting that the terms "Chosen One" or even Messiah better reflect the 2nd meaning in the dictionary. Son of God means just that. He did not have a human but a divine father.
2007-11-15 11:57:52
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answered by gismoII 7
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ok you quoted when Jesus said You say that i am.....well if someone called your name you turn around and say- yes? not I am so and so...
and adam was the son of God, having no fleshly father, Jesus is this in the same way he was directly created by God.....
I am not offended at all, i love questions and logically explaining things, arguing just with Bible verses rarely will help someone who doesn't believe the Bible to begin with so email me anytime with a question I will look this up, but no, i don't think He wanted to brag about it, He was humble.....why do you keep putting peace be on Him?
2007-11-15 11:52:23
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answered by needpin 3
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First off the Lord does not require us to say repetitious things like "peace be upon Him" each time we use His name. We are told in the scriptures that God knows the heart, the words have no value if they are just spoken because you feel you must. Mathew 8:29 does not leave any doubt who Christ is. Glad to see you read the true word.
2007-11-15 12:06:54
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answered by Steiner 6
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To some Muslims, the term “Son of God” brings up images of a sort of divine being with a goddess wife who together have somehow produced a child. When Christians use the term in reference to Jesus, they immediately assume that the Christians are committing blasphemy by stating that God has participated in some sort of sexual union with another god – a goddess wife.
They say: "the most gracious has betaken a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! At it in the skies are about to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin, that they attributed a son to the Most Gracious, for it is not consonant with the majesty of the Most Gracious that he should beget a son. (The Qur'an, 5:88-92).
This is naturally a ridiculous scenario and is a false assumption. No where in the Bible does it say that God had relations with anyone to produce a literal son, nor has Christianity taught that God produced a son through any physical act whatsoever. Such a thing is heretical. Nevertheless, the Bible in numerous places calls Jesus the Son of God. But, it does not mean that Jesus is the literal offspring of God.
The Muslims need to as ask what does that term mean, in its historic and biblical context. Instead of imposing upon the biblical term a meaning that is foreign to it, the Muslim should learn what the Bible means by the term and think of it in the context as revealed in the Scriptures where it is used. To not do that would be the same as me taking a term out of the Qur'an, remove it from its Qur'anic context, and applying another meaning to it and then saying what the Qur'an teaches is false. The term “Son of God” is used in different senses in the Bible. But, never does it mean that God has a wife and produces offspring.
Old Testament usage of the term Son of God
The term “son of God” is used in two main ways in the Old Testament. Neither way denotes any physical relation to God. Rather, the references deal with those who are under divine obedience to the call of God. It is used of Israel as a nation through the Exodus. Hosea 11:1 says, “When Israel was a youth I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.”1 It is also used in reference to angels. Job 1:6 says, "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.” Also, in Job 38:7 it says, "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" These are in reference to angels who are created beings and in no way implies literal dependency from God.
New Testament usage of the term Son of God
The Term "Son of God" occurs 47 times in the King James New Testament. In reference to Jesus, it is a title as the heavenly, eternal Son who is equal to God the Father (John 5:18-24). It is Jesus who fully reveals the Father (Matt. 11:27). He is the exact representation of the Father (Heb. 1:1-3), He possesses all authority in heaven and earth (Matt. 28:18), and Jesus had glory with the Father before the world was made (John 17:5).
The Muslim is taught from the Qur'an and therefore cannot accept the fact that Jesus is divine. To the Muslim, that is shirk, blasphemy of the worst kind. But believing it doesn't make it so. To the Christian, and according to the Bible, Jesus is the one who alone saves us from our sins. We cannot earn our way to heaven, perform enough good works to please God, or ever be "sincere enough" in repentance to somehow obtain forgiveness from God. Instead, Christianity is a faith of God's great love and sacrifice for His creation. Jesus, the Son of God, is the divine one who fulfilled prophecies, walked on water, healed the sick, and rose from the dead. Only the Son of God can do these things.
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2007-11-15 11:56:37
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answered by Pumas for McCain! 3
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