Scientology?

Question

Is all that Xenu and Galctic confederacy stuff for real?

By which i mean is that actually a part of their doctrine. If your a scientologist say so in your answer.

Answer 1

The "higher level" Scientologists believe it. "All that Xenu stuff" really is part of their doctrine.

At level OT III (Operating Thetan Level 3), some very strange & fiercely guarded secrets are imparted upon worthy members who have paid enough money to advance to such a level (and no, this isn't a joke): The evil alien ruler Xenu killed millions of aliens (Thetans) from around the universe by kidnapping them, bringing them to earth in golden DC-8 “space-planes”, stacking them around volcanoes & blowing them up by dropping “h-bombs” into the volcanoes. Scientologists believe the souls of these aliens (these souls are "Body Thetans") were captured, brainwashed & released; they then attached themselves to our ancestors (and according to Scientology’s belief in Thetan immortality, they also attached to us during “past lives”) & cause many of our mental & physical ills to this day. Auditing is said to “clear” us of these Body Thetans as well as the “mental implants” they supposedly impose on our minds.
http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/spaink-ot3.html
http://www.spaink.net/cos/essays/atack_ot3.html
http://xenu.net/archive/leaflet/Xenu-Letter.pdf

Answer 2

Its hard to tell. Im an ex-scientologist. I spent a couple of years taking courses from them. I never heard any of it. I only hear of it in places like this. Even the people who post it say that its "top secret" stuff so even if their facts were right then apparently 99% of scientologists dont believe it. :)

Its kindof like asking christians if they really believe that Jesus was married. Thats also supposed to be "secret stuff known only at the top". But at least I saw it on a tv documentary instead of some hate site or a South Park cartoon.

Answer 3

Not it is not part of the theology of Scientology.
Here’s a factual description for you (Yes, I'm a Scientologist)
Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. By “applied” is meant that it is for use in life and living. You actually use it in your day to day life to chandge and improve existing conditions. It is a practical religion.
All religions if you study them have a basic philosophy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this , but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It acknowledges the principle of God or the Supreme Being but does not try to define or describe this principle, leaving it up to the individual.
It is also not a messianic religion. This means there is no worship of prophets or messiahs.
It is not belief or faith based. In Scientology a truth is true for you according to your own observation and experience .
The dictionary definition that applies:

Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a thing you have but what YOU actually are.
Scientology believes or considers that Man is basically good. This is different from many religions that promote that he his natively evil or bad unless “made” good.

The whole purpose of Scientology knowledge application and procedure is to increase an individual’s understanding and awareness of himself and to rehabilitate his native abilities and potential.
When you do this there sphere and zones of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life , his family and friends, his groups and Mankind of which he is part .

How this result is achieved is the “technology” of Scientology, which was developed by L Ron Hubbard from discoveries he made after extensive research into the field of the mind and the human spirit.
Some of this knowledge was already existing in the ancient texts of the Veda or Vedic Hymns going back 10,000 years. New and additional discoveries were made and fully recorded and codified .
Hubbard published 18 basic books from 1950 to 1953 to fully communicate these basic [rinciples and the path of his research. He completed all his research before his death in 1986 and left all his materials and copyrights to the Church of Scientology’s Religious Technology Centre along with most of his personal estate when he died.

The Church of Scientology is currently established iand operating internationally in over 160 countries world wide. However it is still a new religion, less than 55 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

This is just an overview.
L.Ron Hubbard explained fully the theology and technologies of Scientology in more than 500,000 pages of writings, including dozens of books and over 3,000 tape recorded public lectures.

Answer 4

First, I am a Freezone Scientologist, by which is meant I have been a practicing scientologist but am NOT affiliated with the Church of Scientology in any way. Also, for the record I have been a scientologist for approximately 25 years almost all, except for my initial 1-2 years, of which has been independent of the Church of Scientology.

Unlike almost everyone on the net who has chosen to post something about "xenu" materials I have actually done auditing through to these advanced levels, which I personally found to be useful to me. Point of fact, many of the greatest experiences I have had this life have been as a result of gains made over the years through scientology auditing - often not related to advanced level materials.

Now, with all that out of the way, the "xenu" stuff in scientology is NOT a question of doctrine, dogma, or belief of scientology. It is not necessary belief or dogma. Nor is it necessarily to be considered the "whole & unvarnished truth revealed". Most of what is on the web about this material is sheer nonsense and reflects the ignorance of the original posters concerning the actual purposes and means of auditing the material.

This material was originally published and given limited circulation as material to be looked at in certain types of private counseling.

This material relates to scientology practices much in the same way that some of the "spirit practices" of tantra relate to buddhism and hinduism. In this regard, the "xenu" material is in fact quite similar to tantra although different in narrative content & structure.

This material is SOLELY intended as exercises for students who have achieved a stable level of certain specific skills as a result of their auditing. This material is NOT fundamental to the knowledge of or practice of the subject of scientology.

These things are NOT a part of the discipline of scientology. Belief in them is NOT required or even especially expected. NOR have they any importance whatsoever outside of their intended purpose which is to be looked at in the course of a session of private counseling.

They are not a subject of preoccupation among those of us who have ACTUALLY SUCCESSFULLY AUDITED the levels, although they DO seem to be a focus of endless obsession for any number of people who have NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER of the actual subject of scientology. ;-)

In short a great deal of NONSENSE is made of them.

Because of the PRIVATE nature of auditor counselling, scientologists typically do NOT choose to speak about this stuff outside of session or session-preparation. THAT is the only reason for the "mystery" associated with them.

THAT is the reality underlying the "xenu" material.

So next time you hear about "xenu" think about some of the spiritual exercises engaged in by other esoteric spiritual practices and just leave it at that.

Other questions about scientology are welcomed at the yahoo group freezoneorg. It is a public forum run by scientologists who are independent of the Church of Scientology cult. We welcome curious non-scientologists and will answer most questions. HOWEVER --- Freezoneorg participants won't give detailed answers to questions on advanced level materials beyond what I've written above. So please respect that privacy.

Answer 5

Yes! That is exactly what they believe, only most don't know it because Scientologists are not allowed to discuss their own religion, are banned from learning the "higher levels" of there "religion" without permission. Its nuts is it not? Check this out:

Answer 6

For real as in, do they actually believe that? Or are you asking us if there really is such a thing as Xenu. The answer would be yes and no, respectively.

Answer 7

Some people seem to think so...but then again a while back there was a group of people that thought that they could catch a ride on a passing comet.

Answer 8

No, most of them don't believe that. That's not what the religion's about to begin with (which is self-development).

Answer 9

About as real as the easter bunny.

Answer 10

If tom cruise says it think the opposite