Waths with the myth that ihear from evry paranoid rich republcan that ilegals r stealing ther identity to work

Question

misspelling due to trying to fit entire question in limited space...



They DO pay taxes in the form of sales property, and income tax Yes income tax...either through a social security or a TIN number(yes even illegals can file to pay taxes with an IRS provided TIN number) and what about the Anti fear of identity theft to work, let's follow
that through... when an illegal uses a false social to work he does two things he PAYS HIS FAIR SHARE of taxes..and he pays into social security. this benefits US CITIZENS in that the person whose social he's using will recieve MORE social at retirement age, and its interesting to note that Antis claim millions of cases of identity theft to work against "native born" citizens, but where are all the law abiding "native born" US citizens that are turning in the false social security benefits they recieve at retirement...wait a minute...wait a minute... i thought we were a law abiding non-illegal country so if there are million of false socials being used for work, where are the millions of reported false income being recieved "native borns" ?????....also the social security system is well known to be broke...DONT YOU PEOPLE REALIZE the catastrophe that would happen with SOcial security if millions of people paying now (granted... Illegaly through false socials) suddenly vanished social security would collapse the politicians see it, business owners see it, acadamia see it...its not that hard

I wont answer your other point in reference to crime because you are making generalizations and that does nothing to further our understanding of the problem


your right i shouldnt humiliate you, you can do that yourself, I apoligize if i sound arragont at that times but faulty thinking (especially at the expense of the down trodden) impassions me

disregard the last two paragraphs sorry hahahah notes too a previos poster

no no no thats another argument for another question, Im responding to the claim that illegals use up old "native born's social security and do not contribute back please do not deviate from the points in this question...

yoda YOUR RIGHT theyre not provided socials...theyre PROVIDED TIN'S tax identification numbers similar to businesses

still no response to why "native borns" arent reporting the extra income they ll benefit from at retirement due to those illegals,, that are causing them to "take the rap" as you say.......ADMIT THE HYPOCRACY.....ITS OK FOR CITIZENS TO RECIEVE SOCIAL SECURITY CONTRIBUTED BY AN ILLEGAL????

Answer 1

you are absolutley right. these people are paying into the taxes yet not receiving a tax refund. so where the heck is all that money? maybe for education, roads, and anything else antis wanna cry about saying illegals are taking! very well written!

Answer 2

Let's be clear here: illegals obtaining and using the identity of another is a widespread and systemic practice. It is not without its problems. First off, it's illegal. Second, it messes up databases with inaccurate information.

You are assuming that every illegal that works will use the ID they stole, and pay taxes. Not always the case, in fact rarely is it. Think about it: if they don't pay taxes, who would the government go after? The illegal, whose real identity they don't know, and whose address is unknown, or the person they claim to be? Usually it's the person they claim to be that takes the rap, and then the government realizes that person's identity was compromised.

I agree with the rest of your question though, it is true, nearly every entity in America that holds power or is affluent knows that illegals are here to stay, and they do provide benefits for America.

Answer 3

Clever question. I am a Christian, and I consider Christianity both a religion and a relationship. However, I remember from a long time ago being taught that people get so wrapped up in rituals and laboring at trying to do religiously meritorious deeds, they need to be reminded that those outward activities are not the core of the Christian faith. One way to do that is to reclassify the term "religion" to mean "all that outward religious stuff," so that it can be contrasted with the inner relationship the believer has with a real person named Jesus. For myself, I see religion as both the inner and and the outer aspects of a particular faith. Therefore, using the more commonly accepted definition of religion, I am fully qualified to be here on R&S. Your turn.

Answer 4

So the purpose of your "question" is to attempt to justify illegal aliens' identity theft, a felony, as was pointed out already, with millions of innocent victims in the United States.

And your justification is because they are contributing to social security, and Americans should THANK illegal aliens for their felony crime!!!! All these millions of victims of identity theft in reality should be THANKING illegal aliens for stealing their identity!!!!

It would be funny if it weren't so sick...

Answer 5

Your tax arguments are seriously flawed since poor people cannot pay enough tax to cover their benefits and services in SS or otherwise. If legalized they'd use much more than they paid in in benefits and would be a deficit there as well. Right now, the amount they pay there is minute next to what they use in services even if you just look at education at $10,000 per child per year.

And that is from LOCAL taxes.

We subsidize poor people. That is why every country in the world that subsidizes services for poor people limits how many can come. Their better life is at our direct expense.

Answer 6

Yoda is right. Illegal aliens ARE using fake and stolen identities, most work under the table, some use assumed identites.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-16-2007/0004507135&EDATE=

http://illegalaliensrunningamuk.blogspot.com/2007/09/child-id-theft-growing-problem.html

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=44357

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1214/p01s01-ussc.htm

Would you like a couple of dozen links to news articles of identity theft by illegal aliens???

THIS IS A FELONY....IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.

Answer 7

Illegal aliens ARE using fake and stolen identities. If they are paying taxes with a social security #, it's ONLY by one of these two methods.

ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE NOT LEGALLY ISSUED A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER

Answer 8

Wow, if I was that mistreated in a foreign country - I would leave!

SSI is collapsing anyway - it doesn't take someone with a degree in math to figure that out.

Answer 9

Someone stole my identity to get satelite TV.
Don't ask me why.