IF the words of the pope are infallible?...?

Question

When the Pope issues official statements, there is a hierarchy of authority to his statements. Some statements are made in his capacity as the head of the catholic church. In the highest classification, he is assumed to be speaking as god, and infallible.

Let's just say, tomorrow morning, the pope proclaims the Bible say that "anyone" who is not a catholic is to be shot on sight, and take the land from the Jews, would you do it?

Geo-Star, you must be a fundamental catholic.

Peter Priesthood R&S club 7, are you telling us that you would dare question the words of the pope?

Peter Priesthood R&S club 7, you say that you don't "think" any catholic would? Then who is or was your pope?

Are you saying that it's just a coincidence that the present German pope is still referred to by his colleagues as "Der Panzerkardinal?"

jinengli... , I didn't know living under the NT of the Bible that God "might" tell "us" to kill someone because they are atheists.

Maybe that's why atheist have been quoted making this comment: More wars have been started because of religion than for any other reason known to man kind.

garwy, the last major inquisition took place in the '30's and '40's under under popes Pius XI and XII.

Even a catholic newspaper in Spain was quoted saying (Yes, it was ran by the vatican):

“Adolph Hitler, son of the Catholic Church, died while defending Christianity. It is therefore understandable that words cannot be found to lament over his death, when so many where found to exalt his life. Over his dead remains stands his victorious moral figure, with the palm of the martyr; God gives Hitler laurels of victory.”

I wanted to pick more than just 1 person for best answer. They are: jesussav... for his humor. bookish, your comment is true, but the roaring lion will so it's nasty head again when all of the Saints are call into the air to be with Jesus. 9_ladydi, too bad that the catholics' don't care to take notice of your comment. forever young, considering some of the comments I have heard from missionaries in South America and Africa, especially in a small town Mexico, you would have to. paul p, the book titled "Foxe's Book of Martyrs" by John Foxe backs up your comment. Scottie J, I agree, and that's putting it nicely. American Beauty, the pope is nothing more than a front man. There is a man inside the vatican that has more power than him. He is only refer to as the "Black Pope." Very, hush, hush. Have no idea who he is. Only know this is in reference to the color of his clothing. I have heard other stories, but this is were the members of the SS got the color of their uniform from.

Answer 1

I noticed that the Catholics were silent on this question. Too many things to point out:

like scriptures...or....references to their dark history

Answer 2

The Pope is just a man in a high position, many Popes had sent people to kill innocent non-catholics think on the crusades or the inquisition.

But being an American and living in a free country I would have the right to fend myself of any attacks from any fanatic Catholics.

Answer 3

The pope is in basic terms the chief of the Catholic Church. As Catholics we are taught that we are all Christ's representatives interior the international and element of his actual body, which we take into ourselves at each and every church provider. The Pope is God's representative as chief of the clergy- who're God's representatives and is why they are said as "Father." there is not any "Pope's translation of the Bible" and there is not any Bible with the Pope's footnotes on interpretation. The Catholic Church as a company has interpreted the Bible as, able of administration, it would want to. we do no longer ought to trust each and every thing the Church says. some diocese used to come back out with a itemizing of politicians we ought to continually vote for in an upcoming election. That changed into very controversial, yet understood as a guideline. Catholics have their own minds yet do no longer band mutually with others that share a particular idea and create their own church, like protestants have. There are 3 pillars of religion or authority in Catholicism, Bible, custom, and Clergy. Many or maximum Protestant denominations say, So la Scriptura, yet each and each and every man or woman can opt for what the Bible ability. for the reason that there's a well-known priesthood of believers who each and each and every have the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit can't be incorrect, Protestants are likely to splinter off into sects, first Lutherans, than Calvinists, then Baptists, then Quakers. The list is a lot too lengthy to ever be exhaustive. most of the Protestant sects died out, so those we've now are in difficulty-free words element of all Protestant denominations.

Answer 4

The Catholic Church is a counterfeit, which means that the Pope is a front man, who actually has no power. In fact, the false prophet will come out of the counterfeit Catholic Church.

Answer 5

i think you have misunderstood the notion of papal infallibility.

in order to be regarded as 'ex cathedra' (and therefore to be eligible for infallibility) the pope's pronouncement must always be on a matter of substance relating to core catholic dogma.

by definition this limits infallible statements to propositions.

'xxx must be shot on sight' is not a proposition (it is a command) and therefore could never be offered as an infallible statement.

this would be much easier to understand if we were discussing it in latin, since latin distinguishes between indicative and imperative verb forms. i would be able to say that an ex cathedra statement in imperio dare non potest.

but i hope i have put it clearly enough into english for even a protestant to understand.

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i am amused by the references to the inquisition here. the last european christians to execute witches were actually american protestants (at salem, massachusetts). catholics had stopped doing that stuff over a hundred years earlier.

for those who have never heard of the salem witches there is an excellent play 'the crucible' - written by marilyn monroe's husband - about the incident. it was even made into a film for those of you who find reading burdensome.

Answer 6

The Pope is a man. Lead by like passions as any man. Chosen by men and worshiped by men.

Can he know the word of God?.Does he understand it?

Jesus is the high hierarchy of authority. No one is given power unless it it allowed from above.

You say the serpent that deceived Eve was subtle. But the serpent of men are also subtle. This is a example.

Answer 7

In the first place, nobody's words are infallible, and I wouldnt shoot a non Catholic on sight if the Sweet Lord Jesus Himself came down here and asked me to. Does that answer your question? In other words, use your common sense.

Answer 8

Since I am not Catholic, I'd take up arms in defense of the life of my family and my own.

Answer 9

Not to bash Catholics but it has been done in the past. Think inquisition.

Answer 10

No. The Pope is only human and prone to make mistakes like the rest of humanity.