You weren't following his example by intervening. Isn't that ungodlike and thus amoral. Shouldn't you have stood there and watched it like God did?
2007-11-15 02:42:34 · 20 answers · asked by Meat Bot 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If you were God's instrument then you didn't have free will.
2007-11-15 02:54:51 · update #1
I suppose you're God's "agent" or whatever. Of course, on that theory, when God allows murder to occur, He evidently doesn't feel it necessary to appoint such an agent in that case.
How about this. Maybe sometimes crap just happens. Relative to the human situation, or the situation of certain humans in particular, it seems "bad" - e.g. in the case of murder. The "God" idea is just a human construct that we apply to the situation to console ourselves, in spite of its obvious contradictions.
2007-11-15 02:48:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
Free will mandates that free agents can do right or wrong actions. God does not prevent wrong actions because doing so would be a greater evil, in other words, God would be making free will impossible or obsolete. God would have made robots and not free agents. Perhaps you would prefer to be a robot? I would not.
God doesn't just "stand there" though. The consequences for wrong actions, which are not given to remorse, is hell. Oh wait, you probably will be mad at God for being Just next...
Simple fact is God can't seem to win for some people. They are mad at Him for giving freedom, yet they want to be free; when He is Just, they do not want him to be Just.
I don't think the problem lies with Him.
2007-11-15 10:57:02 · answer #2 · answered by Spiffs C.O. 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Thats a good question, what inside of you would make you care as to whether or not some one else were murdered? That would be the part of you that is part of God, that is his way of intervening in that situation. On the other hand think carefully, would you risk your life for the life of a stranger?
2007-11-15 11:05:41 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is in the jurisdiction of the children of time, such as human beings on earth, to settle their disputes between each other. One who murders another is willfully choosing their behaviors leading to the events, and the one being murdered is also doing so on whatever levels are required which resulted in their being in that situation, wittingly or unwittingly they perchance to be in that situation. What does a loving, heavenly Father hope in such a situation?
God has in place all the heavenly (celestial) host necessary to deal with those who die, and those who die tragic deaths, and all the universe officials and laws necessary to deal with the correction of evil, sin and iniquity. He has provided all there is for the life now and hereafter.
God does not get into the middle of the problems between those who have been given the task at hand. When you, a child of God find yourself in a situation, it is for you make decisions on how to best handle it. For every unrighteous death there is salvation in heaven, and for every sinner the opportunity to accept God's proffers of mercy and rehabilitation.
God's work with regard to the things people do to each other is of greater significance and importance than the mere choosing of the sinful in such a situation.
Our Father provides a place for all who care to come and he desires not to lose a single one. When his immature and erring children of time end up embroiled in situations of murder and morality, the real test is for each individual involved. The actions and reactions are the actual measure of the maturity of the soul.
It is exactly the opposite, it is Godly for God to hope that the goodness in the moral one sway the amoral one from his sin.
The true and everlasting value then, is in reality a reward to each and every individual soul involved according to the lessons learned, the trials and tribulations overcome, and the resulting soul growth of character. Sadly, sometimes God's fondest hopes of swaying the sinner are not realized. And this is the breakdown of the sinner.
If all you do is stand by and watch, then it is the measure of your own inabilities, your own lack of insight and morality, and lastly the measure of your character.
2007-11-15 11:00:16 · answer #4 · answered by Holly Carmichael 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
See, your understanding of the Sovereignty of God is flawed.
You stopped the murder because God said it was not that person's time to go. So God worked through you, whether you are a believer or not, to stop a murder. Just ask Balaam and his Donkey whether or not God uses unbelievers.
2007-11-15 10:49:08 · answer #5 · answered by J.R. 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
it's a paradox for the faithful, god is right to them in all circumstances.
If you stop the murder, then it was his wish that you do so and he is right.
If you don't, then 'god must have wanted this soul' and he is right.
It's paper thin and obvious to the intelligent, but it's the only way the 'faithful' can hold on to their grasp of the obsurd in the face of baseless thinking.
Just stop the murder and if you get in trouble with a fictional being for it, tell them Brett told you to do it.
2007-11-15 10:56:25 · answer #6 · answered by brettj666 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Well if you read the Christian Bible, if you stopped the murder that was God working through you...sorry man but they justify everything by the Good Book...
2007-11-15 10:46:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Maybe by stopping the murder, you interfered with God's ultimate plan...but how would you ever know? In your place I would have done the same, as the very first commandment, handed to Moses by God was, "Thou shalt not kill." If God meant for us to ignore His commandments, why did he bother handing them down?
2007-11-15 10:48:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
If I managed to stop a murder,it would be by the ability which God gave me.
2007-11-15 10:51:03 · answer #9 · answered by Humanist A.R.T. 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
But God is in control of everything. So by stopping a murder, God is still in control.
2007-11-15 10:46:20 · answer #10 · answered by Defender of Freedom 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋