Abortion Pro-Life?

Question

I'm writing an editorial on Abrotion Pro-Life. But I need supporting evidence for both sides that is good and creditable. Can anyone help? Does anyone have an opinion?

Answer 1

The abortion rights group says the mother has a right to do what she wishes with her own body.

With all of the DNA evidence getting people off for various crimes that the DNA evidence shows belonged to someone else, throw in this thought.

If a woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body, how do they reconcile the fact the aborted baby has different DNA?

Cut off the mother's hair, it's her DNA. Take a blood sample from her arm, it is her DNA. Remove her appendix, it is her DNA. But remove the child and though there are similarities, the DNA difference would be enough to acquit one of a crime the other committed. Therefore, it is another person, through DNA evidence.

Answer 2

I'm not going to attack anyone here, just say what I believe. With that...
I feel that life begins at conception. When the egg is fertilized, it has it's own unique DNA that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. The core of what makes us human is the genetic code, so that means that the fertilized egg is a human. To kill a human is murder.
Many states have laws that make murders a double homicide if the mother was pregnant. I don't see how you can have a double standard for something like that. I feel that the question of whether or not the mother "wants" the baby is irrelevant. If the mother doesn't want it, then she shouldn't have gotten pregnant. Once it becomes its own organism, it's just that. The mother should be able to play God with that new human being.
Now, I also understand the need for health of the mother/rape cases. In these situations, I'm not totally sure where my opinions lie. I've heard quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that states mothers who aborted their "rape babies" have regretted so for much of their lives. The question of health of the mother would be fine for me if it didn't open such a large loophole (ie. health of the mother could include a doctor's opinion of the mental health of the patient once the baby is born) that people could use to get an abortion almost as easily.
Unfortunately, the system doesn't offer an easy alternative. Adoption works, but it's very cumbersome. Foster care sucks. Basic policies need to be changed to facilitate the adoption of unwanted pregnancies.

Answer 3

I never used to believe in abortion, however life has a way of changing your mind some time. I will be honest here. When my older daughter was about a year old I found out I was pregnant, at that point I had just moved into a new city and new apartment, I was not working and though I was living with the father (we were still together at the time) he was not working either. We could not afford diapers and milk for our daughter and were living off craft dinner for the most part. Things were real rough and I was very sick from being pregnant, constantly either in bed or in the bathroom throwing up. I couldn't take care of my daughter and I was becoming depressed. I knew I would not be able to make it through the pregnancy and so adoption or keeping the child was not an option I was just too sick and couldn't handle it emotionally or physically. I chose to have an abortion and I still stick by that decision over three years later I know it was the best thing I could have done for myself but most importantly for my daughter and the other child. I am now older and have another daughter and I love both my girls greatly but it just wasn't the right time. And to those who would say that I should not have gotten pregnant to begin with we were using protection and I was on bc it unfortunatly does not always work.

Answer 4

I am neither pro-life or pro-choice. I am pro-responsible-reproduction.

Pregnancy is easily preventable.

What most people neglect to know (or choose not to think) is both pro-life and pro-choice people are thinking of how to deal with the end result of irresponsible actions. I am, of course, only talking about cases outside of rape or other criminal cases (those are small numbers)

Answer 5

I have had an abortion. i am educated and intelligent, so i will refrain from spouting off propaganda.

I had an abortion due to cancer. It was my life or the pregnancy. I was on yaz bc pills and they failed. I had fought so hard to survive through the chemo/radiation/surgeries that I refused to die to carry a pregnancy. It was a difficult choice, but I did what I had to do to survive. I had an abortion at 5 weeks.

I do not regret it. I do not have mental problems. I am happy and healthy now. Medical abortions are a very personal, hard decision. I don't need anyone to judge me; chances are they have not been in my shoes.

Kevin M, thank you. Many times prolife organizations put out propaganda and present it as fact (such as those pictures of "aborted fetuses). While abortion is a touchy subject, spreading lies is not going to help anybody.

Quilter, that is the most inane argument ever. did you know there is a medical condition that causes people to have 2 discrete genotypes? Is it ok to hack that person in half because one type isn't "her" dna? Get educated, sweetheart.

Answer 6

Quilter makes a point I hadn't thought of before. The DNA is different. Of course it is, right from conception. How do they rationalize it is the mother's body when that part has different DNA?

Jack of all trades makes a very divisive comment, "If it is made illegal in the US, wealthy women will fly to countries where it is legal, have their abortions and a shopping spree." This is just pitting rich versus poor. Does he know from experience rich women go have an abortion and go shopping? Hardly. That was just mean-spirited.

He also states "Nobody is in favor of abortion." What he should have added is personally, then maybe he would be right. But there are many people out there who feel it is a victory when someone else has one. I have heard cheering from a speech that the speaker said "there were one and a half million safe abortions performed last year" and the crowd cheered.

The major factor for me is when does life begin? The DNA argument as focused it even more sharply for me. I have come to believe it begins when the cells start replicating, which means at conception. I am one of those weirdos who are against capital punishment, euthanasia and abortion. We shouldn't be in the business of killing at the beginning, middle or end of life.

I hope I haven't upset anyone with my beliefs. I tried to give them logically. Good luck.


Added later - Kevin M makes this statement, "Well, Pro-Life is a horrid misnomer; anti-choice, anti-woman, anti-liberty are all more accurate terms. I'm also not sure anyone on that fence can provide good and/or credible evidence - they're mostly based on lies."

Much of what I read here has salient points from both sides. Again, Kevin I believe is being divisive. There was no call for him to insinuate that those who disagree with him base their ideas on lies. What lie did Quilter state with her DNA evidence? I read some heartfelt statements by both sides from people I think could have a dialogue. I sure don't think Kevin should join that dialogue.

The debate is more likely to be abortion for convenience versus abortion to save the life of the mother. There is a difference in the two. But to say the pro-life side is based on lies is why there is so little dialogue. How can you have dialogue when you say one side only lies? That kills dialogue.


Added again - Okay Kevin M, I will accept your bait. You do NOT get a free pass from being divisive just because you quantified your statement about lies. Using the word mostly with lies IS divisive. Had you used occasionally, maybe I could have given you a pass. But when you say most of one side's arguments are based on lies, that side is going to get offended.

You offer no proof that they are lies, just anecdotal words. There are dangers inherent in many of the procedures. Some women are traumatized emotionally. Those are real, they aren't lies.

And Kevin M, my friend, you seemed to have overlooked one thing I wrote. To quote me " Much of what I read here has salient points from both sides." The reason I don't include you is I don't like being called (or insinuated as being) a liar. That was the divisive part and I will stick with that.

As for Quilter's point being refuted, it wasn't. First of all, the refutation began with an ad hominem attack, which is poor form. It was not inane. The person looked at the occasional medical abnormality and somehow equated it with 1.5 million deaths a year? That just doesn't compute.

So, to wrap up, Quilter's point was well made, with no attacks on anyone. The refutation of her point began with calling her argument inane. Kevin M called most of the arguments that disagree with him lies, then gets offended by someone (me) who says that is divisive.

He then attacks that remark about divisiveness by writing "Fawn - it's funny how the arguments that are not in line with your way of thinking are 'divisive.'". By doing so, he ignores Fawn (me) writing " Much of what I read here has salient points from both sides." I think that line right there says that some people I disagree with made good points, doesn't it?

I only pointed out three arguments I thought were divisive. They were Jack who tried to play the poor versus rich card, KevinM who said the other side was "mostly" lies and the other who said an argument was inane. Rather shaky ground my friend. Rather shaky.

Answer 7

Well, Pro-Life is a horrid misnomer; anti-choice, anti-woman, anti-liberty are all more accurate terms. I'm also not sure anyone on that fence can provide good and/or credible evidence - they're mostly based on lies.

Anyway - here's something giving both sides:
http://www.choicematters.org/articles/procon.html

Edit:

Fawn - it's funny how the arguments that are not in line with your way of thinking are 'divisive.'

Quilter puts up one of the only salient arguments I have ever encountered (though beautifulirishgirl seems to have a counter) - which is why I said "mostly" based on lies. Lies about the dangers, lies about emotional scarring, fraudulent images/movies. It's tricky, because the anti-choice movement will often cherry pick pieces of information in order to build a lie around a small nugget of fact.

Answer 8

mention the 7 year waiting period to adopt a newborn baby.

the high risks that are involved

the fact that a clinic will proform one when the "mom" is not even old enough to have a stable opinion.

the clinic does not inform you about the "baby". what it looks like, what it's doing in that certain stage.

Answer 9

Here is a prolife website

WARNING: graphic photos

http://www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/pictures.html

It also has some good articles and abortion facts from a pro life point of view

Answer 10

Nobody is in favor of abortion. No woman ever said, "Thank God I'm pregnant. Now I can have that abortion I've always wanted." But, abortion has to stay legal. If it is made illegal in the US, wealthy women will fly to countries where it is legal, have their abortions and a shopping spree. Women with less wealth will either raise children they do not want or cannot afford or many more will be tossed in a dumpster like yesterday's sports page.