ATHEISTS: Isn't your real problem with CHRISTIANS themselves, not Christianity per se....????

Question

In so many of your responses - I detect an anger or bitterness or hatred even against Christians - what they have done or haven't done - their intolerance, bigotry, narrow-mindedness, judgmental holier-than-thou hypocritical attitudes - all of which may be true in your life experience, as seen through your prism of existence...

...but would you allow that your problem is with these Christians and their behavior and not Christianity???

Surely you have no problem with loving your neighbor and forgiving your enemies and turning the other cheek? Or perhaps you object to love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, etc. and all the fruits of the spirit?

"How would we know if Christianity works? No one has tried it yet! Preach the gospel your whole life; and if necessary, use words!"

Would you think about this for a minute and be honest with yourself first? Isn't your real problem with Christians and our imperfect practice of our faith and not our faith itself?

Answer 1

Oh I have a problem with Christianity. I think its a bunch of stories created to control other people that promotes allowance for people to be ignorant, intolerant, prejudiced, and hateful towards anyone different.

But you're right, religion is just a thing. Christianity is just a bunch of words in a stupid old book and, in the long run, only means as much as people put into it.

Therefore, I have much MUCH less of a problem with Christianity than I do with the followers. Many of the followers are a cruel and hateful bunch that use their holy book to justify treating others like dirt (or worse).

You see, I don't think the originators of the bible intended it to be used for the unbelievable hatred that Christians foist on others who disagree with them. There are even places in the book where Christians are told to walk away from Atheists (can't remember that exact passage, sorry) if they do not believe. I also don't think it was intended by the writers of the book for them to do things like harass people in their homes.

Heck, there's even one point where its said that they should worship in private, yet the Christians don't listen to it.

Over the last two millenia the followers have become monumentally arrogant. Remember the old saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely", well Christians would be an example of that.

They have held power for far too long and used far too cruel means to convert others, up to and including torture, over some small amounts of injustices they survived in the early years of the religion.

Christians don't do a very good job of listening to their own holy book.

So yes, its the Christians that I have the problem with. Honestly, if they could learn to keep their religion to themselves, we wouldn't have a problem. They can have their religion, they just need to learn to butt out of other peoples lives.

Answer 2

properly, Creationists are slightly embarassing ... even however that's a minority. yet different than for that, i think of its by using fact of one or 2 historic episodes the place some christians seemed to be on the non-scientific element. a million) some christians initially have been arguing against Darwinism (Creationists nevertheless do, yet they seem to be a minority) 2) The catholic church initially adverse Galileo for his "new-fangled" recommendations with reference to the photograph voltaic gadget What has exceeded off is that particularly some the christian behaviour in those episodes looks very backward, idiotic, even slightly oppressive interior the Galileo case. So what you have have been given is Atheists very emotionally committed to Athiesm, perchance many not fairly in touch approximately accuracy in historic arguments. some are very bitter. So those previous episodes make christians look so undesirable, that they've a tendency to communicate of them lots, and concentration on them lots, quite than making an truthful appraisal. that's like politicians, and definitely like a number of our yahoo disputations - each and every person is prepared to win the argument, so arise with the stuff that makes the different element look undesirable and idiotic. Telling them that James Clerk-Maxwell and Faraday have been very committed christians would not as a consequence glue of their minds, that's info they don't opt for to look at; till of direction they are attempting to be independent. yet people are many times creatures of thoughts and prejudices.

Answer 3

No, most everyone I know is christian. I used to be one too. It is more the idea that most christians don't truly understand the history behind thier beliefs. They follow because they were told to. They look straight forward without ever looking to the side to see things from a different point of view, because that would be against thier religion. They follow blindly rather than lead with thier eyes open.

Answer 4

No, my main problem is with the religion, or the formation of that religion, as the case may be.

The added bonus are the Christians that so love to behave badly. You know why they do that, even when it goes against their religious beliefs? Because they forgive themselves later and dismiss it as "saving a soul".

Atheists or Christian, neither can point fingers at the group that has more hatred, or anger. They both have their fair share.

Answer 5

No problem with loving your neighbor, turning other cheek, etc. These things can be deduced from non-religious ethics. The two main problems are (1) superstitious belief in supernatural beings, a non-realistic approach to existence that contaminates the lives of Christians and (2) the tendency to use those irrational beliefs in political discourse and power.

Answer 6

"How would we know if Christianity works? No one has tried it yet! Preach the gospel your whole life; and if necessary, use words!"

That's what communists say. "Communism hasn't really been tried yet"

My disagreement, granted has been with a few Christians who are especially dishonest, bigoted and hateful, but my larger argument is with Christianity asa a philosophy and a claim on 'truth'.

I oppose the basic tenets and claims. It is born from a misanthropic and power-hungry patriarchal, superstitious and primitive mindset.

Same goes for Islam.

Both religions think they can slander individuals who don't subscribe to them. Christianity believes humankind is diseased, 'fallen', 'wicked' etc. Not to mention that it's all made up from bits of history, superstition, Barnum statements, tribal male-ego, and of course borrowed from older mythologies and creation myths.

Answer 7

Do you know I watched a special on the Roman Coliseum the other day on a Drive Through History, and they spoke of the days when Christians were thrown to lions for the amusement of the Godless people. However I did not know when darkness fell, the Christians were also dipped in tar and staked so that these people could have light for their sporting events. It's documented in History, it's just now laws prohibit such "hate crimes", but the hatred and fear remains.

Just stating history, in hopes that it doesn't repeat itself.

Answer 8

I'm not an atheist, but the behaviour and judgment that some christians have make me wonder where this world is going. I have nothing against christianity - I was baptised as christian but never took serious a lot of things in it. I can't be mad at a religion, but I can be mad at what people are making out of it

Answer 9

I have no problem with the Golden Rule or the moral of the tale of the Good Samaritan.

I have a problem with "turn the other cheek". Someone hits me, I will defend myself. I know from experience that if you let them get away with it, they *will* do it again.

IF I decide to forgive an enemy, it will be my decision, not because religion says I have to. "Love" an enemy? Simply not possible.

Answer 10

I am not an Atheist, however, I do have a problem with Christians who preach one way, tell other other people what not to do, then do it themselves. I do question the Bible, and Christians do not like that. They actually believe the Bible is infallible. As far as my belief, I do believe in God. But I question what the Bible has to say. Too many things left out, and too many contradictions.