Atheists: You have no proof for your position, am I right?

Question

How would you then need proof of God, in order to switch worldviews? Since there is more evidence that the world is structured and tuned perfectly with perfect constant laws all around us, there's no reason for you to believe the opposite (that order came from an explosion billions of years ago and it just happened to be perfectly tuned to create and maintain life) Is it ever a wonder why everything we need is of limited supply? Such as water for drinking, trees for air and shelter and food, and girls for reproduction, and a conscience so that we don't purposely do something that wouldn't be beneficial like kill ourselves on the spot.

VISHAL: That was a typo, obviously we have an UNlimited supply of all of these. Hense our water and reproduction cycle and growing of trees.....

Answer 1

Silly jack, it is the no proof of god for the reason I do not believe.

Twist it any way you like to make yourself happy, but the lack of proof of god is why I believe there is no god.

Answer 2

You assume that the world is structured perfectly; and that is not so. We only see the balance that we have arrived at (and that humans don't think twice about destroying usually), you do not see the species that could not find somewhere in that balance and went extinct. We wipe out thousands of species each day...


To say something like since we have drinking water, oxygen for breathing and shelter... and such a thing should be rare and unlikely to have occured, that somehow it must be divine is not being logical. To win a lottery could be a few hundred million to one... for the person who wins though it merely is... He does not declare it divine destiny due to its rarity and create a Religion based around his winning...

The other problem is that, while there may be a God, it does not suggest in any way that any of the religions are right... It merely means there is a God. (It is possible for that to be the case, and for Islam, Judaism and Christianity or any of the others to all be wrong).

This is one of the areas that bothers me the most about thiests arguments; They assume that existence of God, automatically means its there God. The concept of being wrong about the details of what or who God is, never even occurs to them. They can dismiss every other religion (even those that worship the same God) as nothing but pagan views, and with no more logic to their own traditions assume they are correct, without a shred of doubt.

Judaism would go with Moses as being the last prophet... then Christianity comes along and says No, the last prophet was Jesus... then here comes Islam who says your both wrong, Muhammad was the last prophet... same God. It doesn't even stop there... even those groups shatter into subgroups which break off into further subgroups... each declaring they all know the correct way because God told them so.

Its far from a perfect world, and if a God created it... then it was more trial and error than a divine plan.

Answer 3

We all know everything will have a process times during ready made, existing, sick, and ruined. How long will thing existing? A mountain? A sea? or the Earth? Nothing is everlasting even creator. From the point of view; our dog live only 14 years which see human is god long life than it. A tree which takes 3000 years to grown up, 3000 years to have flower blossom, 3000 years to have fruit, the result is this tree will have no flower, no fruit. When we see something existing, will apply on creator but who created the creator. Will he has family member? He live alone? I can say that poor god . I don't want to be god. We are easily to concept on somethings we are not really understand and we apply on our own concept which basically our idea which someone different from you, will have arguement and fight and kill. That is why the OT bible said the clarified sin and holly tree fruit we cannot eat, it is the origin of sin.

If there is a creator then will have a creator to create the creator then is a everlasting question. This concept is vertical from starting point to an everlasting point.

If everythings should have a creator, will be so many creators. This concept is horizontal and also starting one point to everlasting point.

Someone say; our universal is a big mirror.
one side happenned something reflexing to another side takeing many years. That is why someone can written down the future because he came from otherside of earth.
All these concepts are circle and will be round and round reputaion. Actually our histories are repeated but every time differently. See our enconomy circle, everytime repeated and everytime a little bit differently.

The Hindru concepts: Everyone is god, need to be respected. Everythings is under karmas which following you everlasting. Like a seed planting in the ground then grown up to tree.

The budhaist concept; Seeds going to ground should have earth, water, sunshine and not eaten by worms and birds then be grown up. This is chances.

What do you think?

Answer 4

We have plenty of proof and your statement of constant laws couldn't be further from the truth.

Quantum laws for instance are not laws as such but are statistical probabilities. Statistical probabilities do not provide constant laws. Chaos theory is in effect every single day. We only perceive order and try to maintain order yet we simply can't do it. The climate, the weather the oceans etc are anything but ordered.

Secondly, Christians continually misunderstand the big bang. The Big Bang term was coined by a Fred Hoyle who was opposed to the theory. The universe is not thought to have started as an explosion but rather as a very rapid expansion. There was no explosion as the name Big bang suggests.

As for proof of the big bang, see the red shift of galaxies, Background radiation, the laws of physics for starters.

To see evidence on earth then just look at the theory of evolution.

Answer 5

You're looking at it a bit backwards. There is a lot of evidence that supports a "big bang" and evolution. The statements that "the world is structured and tuned perfectly with perfect constant laws" is misleading in that the world is not "tuned" nor is it perfect also "constant laws" are often only constant in specific situations.

So no, you are not correct in any sense. There is an astounding amount of consistent evidence that the world is over 4 billion years old, if there was not evidence then I, and other scientists, would look for other explanations. Not only no evidence for god, there is no supporting evidence for any of the miraculous events in the bible.

Answer 6

In science, the assertion of a thing is that which requires proof. Science doesn't require an individual to believe the existence of a thing for which no proof exists. That is the basis of the disagreement between theists and atheists.

Theists (Christians, et. al.) try to say that it is incumbent on atheists to prove there is no God. They seem to believe that proof of no god would require the same level of proof of a god, and that thus they are on a firm footing. This is simply not so.

Christians claim that god is alive and active in their lives in a substantial way. If he is, he should be able to be proved in a substantial way. If God performs miracles, there should be evidence of miracles beyond what can be attributed to chance.

The counter argument to the existence of a being or a thing is not the absolute proof that such a thing exists; it is merely the refusal to accept an extravagant claim until adequate evidence is shown.

Do you believe in the Loch Ness monster? What absolute proof do you have that such a creature does not exist. Should we drain the lake to make sure?

How about aliens from space among us? Should we round up every person on Earth, put them in camps until their DNA can be tested? Whp should we trust to do the tsting?

It is not a flaw to refuse to believe without evidence.

Answer 7

Your wrong.
Just because Christians "believe" in a god does not make it a fact.
belief is an acceptance without proof.
I prefer to have proof of something before i accept it is a "fact"
You only have to look at the Internet to realize many many "facts" are actually incorrect

religion is responsible for retarding the progress of Man it insists on us following outdated dogma and "laws"
if as much effort was used to progress our scientific thinking as is used by Christians to "interpret the word of god"
we would have eliminated War, Death and decease by now

Answer 8

I have "proof".

There are thousands of historical documents that show us exactly how religion has formed over the course of time.

There are thousand of scientific studies concerning human need for connectiveness and acceptance. Hundreds of studies on mass hysteria. Thousands of studies of the age of the earth and the changes it, and it's inhabitants, have gone through over millions of years.

Relying on a few hundred documents from a long ago era, that were then compiled into a book written, because a King (James), decided he didn't like the bible of the previous ruler. Look it up, there are hundreds of books written about the formation of Christianity and the bible.

I have all the proof I need, thanks.

Answer 9

Lack of evidence is proof. Otherwise you couldn't dismiss anything no matter how absurd.

And Google 'background radiation" since it is there and was predicted by the Big Bang decades before the equipment could detect it. We KNOW that the Big Bang happened even though we aren't positive what caused it.

Answer 10

hahhahaha a million) Thats never the way it changed into 2) you may't disprove something that would not exist. flow to my storage and educate to me a significant invisible, untouchable, unhearable, unsmellable, and untastable table isn't there. No, if I say that I gotta educate that. 3) i imagine the default position element is completly stupid reason its in difficulty-free words like 25% of the international of notwithstanding, yet thats no longer the point. ill in basic terms settle for that it could be considered the default position. yet to GET there, you ought to educate it. The idea that earth revolves is the sunlight is the "default position", yet how did it get there? It had to be shown.

Answer 11

If there was proof of God, everyone would know he existed and there would be no doubters. Cosmic structure, as we know it, does not prove God exists. You have to have faith that God exists and a lot of people, including myself, don't put stock in religious faith. Spiritual faith, maybe - if there is an afterlife.