Is it a bigger violation of civil rights to listen to terrorists conversations...?

Question

...or US government sending tanks after Branch Davidians in Waco, TX?

just a reminder to empty heads the government was never 'under Reno.' Reno was under Clintons. Clintons killed women and children at Waco.
There sadly is child abuse everyday in every community, should we send tanks?

Answer 1

The U.S. Constitution protects Americans' right to bear arms. It doesn't protect terrorists' privacy.

Answer 2

No Josiah David Koresh killed women and children at Waco, thought you were so big on PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, Waco was Koresh's doing and no one else's and if for a minute you trust the Government not to abuse authority you are Naive, just read up on Hoover's F.B.I. and Nixon's use of intelligence to try to discredit his enemy's and see that the supposed eavesdropping on Terrorists can and will probably be severely abused by those in power, if they really have intelligence that the parties are terrorists there are provisions in the existing FISA law to make sure they can be monitored, there is ZERO need for expanding Governmental powers in this area, why do you think the FISA law is on the books Josiah? For fun? No to protect WE the people from Governmental abuse and unwarranted intrusions into our privacy as granted by the Constitution, you do believe in the constitution don't pardner

Answer 3

The Branch Davidians had been stockpiling illegal weapons and then got into a firefight with the ATF agents who came to get them. This led to the siege. Taking action against those suspected of or known to be engaging in illegal activity is not a violation of civil rights. Wiretapping without a court warrant or reasonable cause is. After all, the government wants to listen in before they have proof that the person they're listening in on is a terrorist. See the difference?

Answer 4

First of all, no "tanks" were sent in at Waco. One lone APC was used because the wackos inside the place shot anyone approaching.

Terrorists have NO rights..! To suggest otherwise is just plain stupid, and anyone concerned about the rights of animals who target women and children is an absolute lunatic and totally disconnected from reality.

Answer 5

???What one has to do with the other?

I can tell you before this administration we had covert actions, it was done legally, including bugging phone lines. There was a third party involved who would be included in the action. Kept things on the up and up. This admin did away with that practice and that's what I have a problem with.

As far as Waco goes, I am sure that could have been handled different. but one does not o.k. the other.

Answer 6

The US government is not listening to terrorist conversations. The SU government is listening to the conversations of US citizens and hoping that some of them turn out to be terrorists.

I think that spying on US citizens is a bigger violation of civil rights that arresting lawbreakers. Soem people violate the law. Arresting those people protects the rights of everyone else. Why do you think that criminals should not be punished?

Answer 7

are the terrorist due "American" civil rights? did not know that. i thought we are supposed to stop ourselves from being bombed again, not the nice terrorist whom you support. news to me. waco?! the fool should have just not built up a weapons stockpile and not one gov official would have knocked on their door. when you scheme to break the law your rights should be voided. both are/were deserved. fight the good fight ahmed.

Answer 8

there is a critical error in your scenario. "listening to terrorist conversations" is not a violation of anything but "listening, without a warrant, to SUSPECTED terrorists" might be.

yes, what the government under Reno did to the Branch Davidians was a despicable abuse of power. regardless of the fact that they were a bunch of criminal crazies, one should expect ones government NOT to act like a bunch of criminal crazies.

Answer 9

Well, if someone is shooting automatic rifles at me, has killed several law enforcement agents, and I have a tank at my disposal......I would probably use it....Quit acting like these people were innocent. If I shot a cop, they are going to come in guns blazing.

Answer 10

I guess children being abused really doesn't factor in to your little dream world does it?

and lack of oversight giving the government unlimited potential to abuse power, doesn't either, does it?

maybe you think they should have just kept sending law enforcment officers up to the door to be killed...oh wait a minute....I guess that would fall under the logic....fighting them in Texas, so we don't have to fight them anywhere else huh?

Clinton nor Reno was in texas giving the orders to do what was done.