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2007-11-13 14:20:15 · 20 answers · asked by Page 4 in Politics & Government Politics

Just Roving...

2007-11-13 14:20:29 · update #1

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No. They simply lie. There is nothing noble about it.

Bush lied when he knowingly used a forged uranium document to sell the Iraq war to people.

Cheney knowingly lied when he claimed that Iraq was involved in the attack on 9/11

Rice knowingly lied when she joined in with Bush's lie by claiming Iraq had purchased aluminum tubes to enrich uranium. The IAEA study proved that the tubes in question could NOT serve that function.

Powell either lied or was lied to about mobile chemical lab trucks exposed via satellite photos.

Everything involved with the invasion of Iraq was rooted in lies.

Finally, Scooter Libby was convicted of lying to protect those involved in exposing a covert CIA agent. Bush rewarded his lies by commuting his sentence.

2007-11-13 14:37:16 · answer #1 · answered by Chi Guy 5 · 1 4

I will concede that certain lies, when used to achieve a greater good, can indeed be noble. When an undercover CIA agent, deceives others into thinking that he is an ordinary businessman, this lie is necessary and good, because it serves a national security interest. However, lying for the purposes of covering up governmental foibles or corruption can never be noble, and that is precisely the sort of deception that the neoconservatives are dealing in.

So neoconservatives don’t lie, for the purposes of protecting us from information that can harm us. They, instead lie, so that they can protect themselves from public scrutiny. You name the lie –whether it is the existence of WMDs, the supposed connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq, the complicity of our government with governments that sponsor terrorist organizations, or the massive profiteering that takes place due to corporate exploitation of the war – neocons employ every form of mendacity possible to not only subvert the justice system, but also to make themselves rich and powerful at the expense of the lives of the American citizenry and the global community.

2007-11-14 04:33:14 · answer #2 · answered by Lawrence Louis 7 · 0 0

#1. Define neoconservatives.
#2 Lies are lies. Give an example of a noble lie.
#3 Deadly truths"? Example please.
I'm guessing you are trying to ask a profound question but it's just not working.

2007-11-13 14:49:14 · answer #3 · answered by Cinner 7 · 0 1

How are things going in Iraq now that the surge has been completed? I remember a lot of "noble" Democratic Senators lamenting how it would not work and that we had already lost the war. When it comes to lies, the Liberals cannot be outdone.

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2007-11-13 14:32:57 · answer #4 · answered by Jacob W 7 · 3 1

I don't think that any neoconservative, not to be confused with regular conservatives, have any idea as to what the word "noble" means. Furthermore, I do not think that lying to people is ever the right thing to do, especially when it comes to foreign affairs, political agendas, etc. This, my friends, is the problem with democracy... politicians lie to you, whereas monarchs say "here's the truth, deal with it."

2007-11-13 14:25:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

I didn't know that most judges were "neoconservatives."

"Legal realists ... have long understood that the reasons judges give for their decisions are oftentimes simply after-the-fact rationalizations of results reached for reasons they are unwilling to acknowledge publicly, reasons such as political, economic, or religious predilictions." -- Prof. Alan Dershowtiz, "How the Supreme Court Hijacked Election 2000," published in 2001.

Former Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas was no "neoconservative," he was certainly a staunch liberal his entire life, and he did tell lies to cover up the truth of why he came to the legal conclusions that he came to for over 36 years on the Court.

2007-11-13 14:27:05 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

the noble lies were wmd,spreading freedom,AQ ties.. the deadly truth is we covet their oil and wish to dominate the region

2007-11-13 14:50:32 · answer #7 · answered by ben j 3 · 1 1

If you are referring to the truth behind 9/11 or why we really went to war with Iraq, then I would say that I don't see anything noble about deceiving the public.

BTW there were no WMDs in Iraq.

Where is Osama bin Laden?

2007-11-13 14:26:12 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 4

Of course they do. Didn't that very phrase originate from their ex-Trotskyite father, Leo Strauss?

2007-11-13 17:10:41 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

of course that is the whole concept of an elite... It is exactly what Leo Strauss had in mind when he spurred the neo-con movement...

2007-11-13 14:24:34 · answer #10 · answered by vegan_geek 5 · 3 2

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