Catholics? Devils?

Question

I have a few things to say... How can Catholics be so blind ???
Turn with me and tell me if catholics are doing things right or not...
1 Timothy 4:1-3 " Now THE SPIRIT speaketh expressively, that in THE LATTER TIMES (now) some shall depart from faith, giving heed to spirits, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS. Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their consience seared with a hot iron. FORBIDDING TO MARRY (hmm sounds like priests...), to ABSTAIN FROM MEATS (hmmmm sounds like lent on fridays?) which God hath vreated to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and KNOW THE TRUTH"

hmmm i dont think it gets any more straight foward than that..

another thing.. IDOLETRY!!!

Exodus 20:4 "THou shall NOT MAKE UNTO THEE ANY GRAVEN IMAGES, or any likeness of ANYTHING that is in heaven above."
Exodus 34:17 "THou shall make thee no molten Gods"
Leviticus 19:4 "Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselve molten Gods: I am the LORD your God"
MUST I KEEP GOING? ISNT IT STRAIGHT enough>??

ok maybe i worded that wrong, all catholics are not devils.. but their doctrine is certainyl not correct. THe WORD OF GOD clearly states these things.. how can you ignore them??

Answer 1

I am an ex-catholic (I renounced the catholic religion) and am now a born again Christian, follower of Jesus. I have tried so much to witness the truth to catholics, but they are so stuck in tradition! I have even turned a few onto these web pages:


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/full_of_lies.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/hail_mary_hail_satan.htm

Answer 2

"THE WORD OF GOD" The Jewish Bible,The Catholic Bible The Protestant Bible and the more than 50 other versions of the Bible are significantly different from each other. How do you know you are reading the most accurate Bible ? Quoting from your Bible does not mean anything ,particularly if you have the wrong translation.

Therefore everything you said is complete and utter nonsense.

Now here is something i doubt you have the intelligence to absorb :

When The Virgin Mary APPEARED....YES.. APPEARED !!!(and no, you won't find this in your Bible ) to the visionaries at Medjugorje ,she said to them :
"There is but one God and that people have enforced unnatural separation.One cannot truly believe ,be a Christian,if one does not respect other Religions as well.
YOU DO NOT REALLY BELIEVE IN GOD IF YOU MAKE FUN OF OTHER RELIGIONS"

DOES THIS APPLY TO YOU ?

Answer 3

i become raised a Protestant, and that i infrequently heard the point out of the devil. It relies upon very plenty on the denomination. in actuality it variety of feels to me that the Pentecostal and evangelicals are people who use the term the main. I went to a Catholic intense college the place he become pronounced now and then. Have an wonderful day!

Answer 4

Many religions have specific dietary codes to which dedicated followers must adhere. Muslims are forbidden to eat pork. This edict has never been rescinded.

Yes, Catholics were once told to eat only fish on Friday; but, that edict was rescinded many years ago. Catholics do not make any "graven image" or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above except God and Jesus; the same images Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, and Church of Christ churches exhibit.

I don't know what the Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, Islamists, and other world religions exhibit or revere.

As a Catholic, I believe in God and our precious Saviour, Jesus, the son of God. I pray to God to forgive my sins, and to bless mankind. I pray to Jesus to speak to his father on my behalf. I beseech Mary, the mother of Jesus, to intervene for me, with her son: Present my plight, my petition. St. Paul, St. Peter, and all the other Saints, are respected heavenly tenants. There can be nothing "wrong" in asking for their help.

When a student at school gets in trouble, they will seek every avenue to get them out. Principals and teachers are approached every day by parents who want to get their child out of suspension or detention. Parents will promise anything. Students vow they did nothing wrong. Do students pray to God, Jesus, the Saints, the principal, teacher, or parent?

Answer 5

It doesn't mean if you're catholic you're a devil. Although catholics have figures of saints, Jesus and so on; they pray and a lot of them even help the poor, a lot of them are very religious and at the same time kind hearted.

Answer 6

Which Catholic doctrines do you find to be devilish? The one that says that Jesus is "Mediator and Fullness of All Revelation"?

Read it here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__PH.HTM

The one that identifies Christ as "The Unique Word of Sacred Scripture?

Read it here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__PO.HTM

Perhaps our statement of belief, "We believe in one God, the Father Almighty...and in Jesus Christ His only Son..." , etc.?

Read it here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P13.HTM

Which of these things do you argue with?

For a guy who spouts off about "knowing the truth," you sure believe a lot of lies about Catholicism. We don't believe in idol worship, either.

Read it here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7F.HTM

So to sum up, if you're going to keep going, try going in TRUTH instead of operating in a lot of lies. Nothing you've said here is straight at all. Read the links above -- you're way, way off base. We are your brothers and sisters in the Lord!

Answer 7

It is interesting how that Catholics do not see the pagan roots of their church and what they believe is true.
If one Google Earths the vatican you can clearly see the pagan God sun wheel symbol in the open courtyard area of St Peters square.

Additioanally in the center is an Egyptian obelisk which is at the center of a smaller four-pointed sun wheel, the same symbol as found on the altar stone in the temple of Baal in Hatzor.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/vatican_solar_wheel.jpg

The Pope has celebrated palm sunday in front of this pagan pillar.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/palm4.jpg

Throughout most of their churches are sun wheel symbols in plane view of everyone.
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/terras/bt-catherine-i-s.jpg
http://198.62.75.1/www1/jhs/JHS-calvary-cs.jpg

..and we wont even mention the Baal / Shamash symbols within an eight-pointed star of Ishtar worn by the Pope himself.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/jp2-stole.jpg

Again , I am not picking on anyone , but it is clear that Catholic church is not following what the Bible really teaches.

For more Bible based info please feel free to email me.

Answer 8

Unfortunately, this forum does not allow enough space for me to answer all your fallacious claims. I will answer your 'idolatry' claim. When you see your error, hopefully it will compell you to consider the possibility you believe in other fallacious claims.

Images and Statues
Deut. 4:15 - from this verse, Protestants say that since we saw "no form" of the Lord, we should not make graven images of Him.

Deut. 4:16 - of course, in early history Israel was forbidden to make images of God because God didn't yet reveal himself visibly "in the form of any figure."

Deut. 4:17-19 - hence, had the Israelites depicted God not yet revealed, they might be tempted to worship Him in the form of a beast, bird, reptile or fish, which was a common error of the times.

Exodus 3:2-3; Dan 7:9; Matt. 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22; John 1:32; Acts 2:3- later on, however, we see that God did reveal himself in visible form (as a dove, fire, etc).

Deut. 5:8 - God's commandment "thou shall not make a graven image" is entirely connected to the worship of false gods. God does not prohibit images to be used in worship, but He prohibits the images themselves to be worshiped.

Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31 - for example, God commands the making of the image of a golden cherubim. This heavenly image, of course, is not worshiped by the Israelites. Instead, the image disposes their minds to the supernatural and draws them to God.

Num. 21:8-9 - God also commands the making of the bronze serpent. The image of the bronze serpent is not an idol to be worshiped, but an article that lifts the mind to the supernatural.

I Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-67 - Solomon's temple contains statues of cherubim and images of cherubim, oxen and lions. God did not condemn these images that were used in worship.

2 Kings 18:4 - it was only when the people began to worship the statue did they incur God's wrath, and the king destroyed it. The command prohibiting the use of graven images deals exclusively with the false worship of those images.

1 Chron. 28:18-19 - David gives Solomon the plan for the altar made of refined gold with a golden cherubim images. These images were used in the Jews' most solemn place of worship.

2 Chron. 3:7-14 - the house was lined with gold with elaborate cherubim carved in wood and overlaid with gold.

Ezek. 41:15 - Ezekiel describes graven images in the temple consisting of carved likenesses of cherubim. These are similar to the images of the angels and saints in many Catholic churches.

Col. 1:15 - the only image of God that Catholics worship is Jesus Christ, who is the "image" (Greek "eikon") of the invisible God.

Relics
Mark 15:43; John 19:38 - Joseph of Arimathea sought Christ's dead body instead of leaving it with the Romans. Joseph gave veneration to our Lord's body.

Mark 16:1; Luke 24:1 - the women came to further anoint Christ's body even though it had been sealed in the tomb.

John 19:39 - Nicodemus donated over one hundred pounds of spices to wrap in Jesus' grave clothes. This is also veneration of our Lord's body.

Matt. 9:21; Mark 5:28 - the woman with the hemorrhage just sought the hem of Christ's cloak and was cured. This shows that God uses physical things to effect the supernatural.

Acts 19:11-12 - Paul's handkerchiefs healed the sick and those with unclean spirits. This is another example of physical things effecting physical and spiritual cures.

Acts 5:15 - Peter's shadow healed the sick. This proves that relics of the saints have supernatural healing power, and this belief has been a part of Catholic tradition for 2,000 years.

Rev. 6:9 - the souls of the martyrs are seen beneath the heavenly altar. Their bones are often placed beneath altars in Catholic churches around the world.

2 Kings 13:21 - Elisha's bones bring a man back to life. The saints' bones are often kept beneath the altars of Catholic churches and have brought about supernatural cures throughout the Christian age.

Rom. 13:7; Phil. 2:25-29; Heb. 3:3; 1 Pet. 2:7 – we are taught to honor the people of God and in 1 Cor. 4:16-17; 1 Cor. 11:1-2; Phil. 3:17; 1 Thess. 1:6; 2 Thess. 3:7; Heb. 6:12; Heb. 13:7; James 5:10-11 – we are reminded to imitate them. Keeping relics of the saints serves both to honor and imitate their heroic faith in Christ (just as keeping articles of deceased loved ones helps us honor and imitate them).

Answer 9

And don't forget:

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Answer 10

Catholicsm replaced the old pagan religion of the Roman empire. Yet its still the same. They just changed the names of their gods. Its still the same practice. Catholicsm is not Christianity.