If so, can what is destroyable or breakable, be really called perfect?
2007-11-12 14:31:46 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This in reference to Adam and Eve creation, to make it more clear
2007-11-12 14:38:44 · update #1
The bible says that none of us on on earth are perfect except Jesus. Free will does not destroy it, it simply doesn't exist.
Are you asking if the first sin by Eve and then Adam in the Garden of Eden destroyed perfection? I think the answer would be yes.
2007-11-12 14:49:13 · answer #1 · answered by Shannon C 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, and no...
Most people, and many Christians misunderstand the concept of free will. Free will is not simply the ability to make your own choices, though that is a large part of it. Free will is what separates mankind from nature.
Nature acts as it must, without regard to right or wrong, good or evil. A lion teasing it's prey seems cruel to us...but that's what a lion does. It can do no other. A cat will kill it's own kitten, if it is too weak, but there is no right or wrong to it. Put up a fence, a dog will jump it. Put up a fence, a law abiding person will honor the intention of the fence. Nature has no concept of free will, right/wrong..good/evil...and consequently no concept of a greater power than they. The only reason we have free will is because God created us in his image, and when he breathed life into us, he breathed wisdom and discernment. There can be no free will unless there is a choice between right and wrong, and there can be no distinction between right and wrong unless an ultimate authority tells us what is right, and what is wrong. It is up to us to behave appropriately.
As to your question, a direct answer is that God created perfection, but Mankind forever ruined it with Original Sin. That event started the de-evolution of the world, from God's perfection to what we have now. The farther we get from The Creation, the further away we fall from perfection.
2007-11-12 22:53:03 · answer #2 · answered by Steve M 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Perfection is an ideal. Maybe God could have made the world 'perfect' (whatever that means to -him-) but obviously that wasn't what he was after.
Unless you think that anything God does is 'perfect' by definition, which I suppose is a tenable argument for a theist. 8^)
Personally I believe that God designed Adam and Eve deliberately to eat the fruit. He made them curious and put them in a garden and told them it all belonged to them and they could do as they wished, except for this one beautiful tree in the middle of the garden. What did he expect?
And what if they hadn't eaten the fruit? Where would we be now? There would be no history. Just two people in a garden in a state of perpetual innocence forever. That doesn't sound very interesting to me.
2007-11-12 22:50:38 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Deal with reality.....
1. Many more individuals are born than can possibly survive, thus there is competition for limited resources
2. Within this vast number there is variation, and because of this variation some of these individuals will have an advantage--however slight--over others
3. The ones who have the advantages are more competitive and thus they are more likely to obtain the limited resources
4. The ones who are succeeding in securing the limited resources are more likely to reproduce and thus pass onto their offspring the more competitive traits
Darwin
BTW.....why does anyone pray?? Doesnt God already know everything and doesnt he control everything??
Does the person who prays the most get the most?? Is it a contest with God?? Does he keep score??
It occurs to me that praying is very selfish b/c God already knows it all and controls it all, so it makes no sense to me....unless of course God is just pure fiction....mmmmmm....
2007-11-12 22:34:07 · answer #4 · answered by Man of Ideas 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
no, free will is just that, you are free to do whatever you want; but in all things good or bad there are consequences. No one is perfect (at least here in society and in all of humanity here on earth). The Bible states that there is but one perfect man--Jesus.
2007-11-12 22:40:12 · answer #5 · answered by Lifeline 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Apples and oranges, man. Free will is ability to choose your own path. "Perfect" is an objective term. Now, like apples and oranges are both fruit, I can freely say your question is not perfect and still be right.
2007-11-12 22:35:31 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
well, no. people have the free will to decide what they think is perfect. that would be like an oxymoron.
2007-11-12 22:36:56 · answer #7 · answered by fullofsugaw 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is no such thing as true perfection.
2007-11-13 01:49:35 · answer #8 · answered by Bookworm 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
there is no such thing as perfection unless you're a mathematician
2007-11-12 22:36:04 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
First you have to define perfection.
2007-11-12 22:34:32 · answer #10 · answered by Nightwind 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋