While at college today,after my one class today,I went down to the first floor to just chill and relax with the rest of the ****** down there, and there was this one table where they were taling (arguing really) about the laws of the OT and weather or not they should still be obeyed.I interjected myself into the conversation,becuase spiritual things is one of the main things I'm passionate&fervent about,having grown up both my parents Christians and my dad a minister,I knew and understtood basically what they were talking about.
My understanding as far as the OT laws is this&tell me if you agree or disagree,if you disagree why?
My understanding is The people of the OT salvation was dependent on weather or not they obeyed the law,in which breaking even one,just one,qualified a person for the lake of fire;&unfortunately all broke the law.Now in the NT when Christ came,He fullfilled the law by living a perfect sinless life.When He died on the cross,as John 3:16 says, anyone that...
2007-11-12 14:27:34 · 14 answers · asked by Maurice H 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
believed in Him as God would be saved from the punisment of breaking the law which all did break.So accepting Jesus mean your salvation now was not dependent on the law,but dependent on your faith in Christ and keeping His commandments.
Now the laws of The OT like what to eat and what not to eat are still practical,the foods He said not to eat we find out are not good for us,so we shouldnt eat them,but if we do we dont have to worry cause our salvation is not dependent on that.
in short;OT laws are practical and should be followed.But those in Christ OT laws are not neccesary for salvation,a long healthy life yes,but not salvation.
Agree or disagree?If disagree why?
2007-11-12 14:31:35 · update #1
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2007-11-12 14:52:10 · answer #1 · answered by Brnskngyurl 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, yeah...but the Law was also made to prove a point: that NO human could live up to it. So yeah, as you said, Jesus our Savior fulfilled the Law and we are to trust in Him and give our lives to Him (as He did for us) and accept Him into our hearts also believing that He is the Son of God, that He is risen, and that He paid for our sins. Now, the part that is unfortunately forgotten about is that most of the OT is the proof of Jesus. It told of so many prophecies (over 300) that if one man were to fulfill them it would HAVE to be The Christ. Mathematicians have calculated the odds of fulfilling all of them, half, etc. and the chances of one man just filling 8 out of the 300+ is 10 to the 17th power or 10 ^ 17 (1 with 17 zeroes) and the chances of one man fulfulling just 48 of the more that 300 is about 10^157. I cannot imagine a number that big. Anyway, the OT is the proof (or further proof, since I think there is plenty in NT alone) that He, Jesus, is who He says He is--God.
2007-11-12 14:56:53 · answer #2 · answered by MICHAEL C 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Alway go to the Word for the answer.
Matthew Chapter 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
LUKE CHAPTER 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Laws, statues, and ordinances are not the same thing. For example, The Ten Commandments (laws) are as valid today as when God gave them. Also, the Food Laws, contrary to what most Christians believe, are still valid.
On the other hand, blood ordinances because of Christ, are no longer valid.
The OT was our schoolmaster, foreshadowing things to come. In fact, if you know the Word well enough, you can almost teach all of the NT from the OT.
2007-11-12 14:35:28 · answer #3 · answered by David G 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, I don't think you have it right concerning the laws of the Old Testament. While Christianity might think this (thereby requiring people to turn to Christ), the Judaism does have a forgiving God- On Yom Kippur the sins of Jews are believed to be Atoned for or repented from.
Also, check out the last chapter of Jonah, where God tells Jonah that the Ninevites are no longer to be destroyed. While it falls short of saying there is "forgiveness" for the Ninevites, it certainly implies that sins are reversible.
Finally, Judaism is ambiguous about the existence of an afterlife anyways.
2007-11-12 22:06:42 · answer #4 · answered by Mr. Bad Day 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I do believe Christ fulfilled the law, but he didnt throw it out.
The law of moses was a lesser law, in that it required more specific laid out laws for the people to live, because if they were left to their own devices they would seriously have distorted the meaning of the laws (which they actually ended up doing) They couldnt live just by the spirit of the law because they werent able or ready to live it. They took the law to the extreme by making up laws like how many steps you were allowed to take on the sabbath. They lost a lot of the spirit of the law.
The Mosaic law led the people to salvation. It was the same spiritual message as that of Christ, with just more nitpicky details to keep the people on track (which they still managed to take off track)
Christ came and didnt change the spiritual message, but did change the nature of the worship. He brought more freedom to the church and its followers because it was a higher law. It was a law for people that were ready to worship according to the spirit of the law. (even though they still managed to mess it up, too)
The nature of the law and message itself really ddint change. The doctrines remained the same. It was the way of worship that changed. He fulfilled the lesser law to allow for the freedom of the higher law.
2007-11-12 14:37:35 · answer #5 · answered by cadisneygirl 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Nowhere in the OT does it say anything about an afterlife or a lake of fire. That is NT belief based on Greek philosophy.
2007-11-12 14:33:18 · answer #6 · answered by strpenta 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
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2016-10-02 05:59:06 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I agree with you. OT has lots of things we need to follow and learn from, but the NT has the New Covenant.
2007-11-12 14:31:48 · answer #8 · answered by Marie F 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You didn't finish the question, but as an atheist I'll be happy to remind you that you're just blowing a lot of hot air around anyhow.... Nothing in either the old or the new testament is worth troubling yourself over. It's all just nonsense.
Muslims... please don't feel left out. You're basic sources of belief are no better.
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2007-11-12 14:36:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Mosaic law was for Jews; we are spiritually indebted to them for giving us Jesus and connected to them, but I don't see what Mosaic law has to do with Christians today--just my thoughts.
2007-11-12 14:32:59 · answer #10 · answered by ? 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the only thing in the OT God put a stop to was sacrifices. the rest still stands. man canot be saved by only grace or only works....... you have to have both.......
2007-11-12 14:32:08 · answer #11 · answered by Thumbs down me now 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋