since the bible bases the premice of our salvation on that of doing works, will we be saved even though they?

Question

works of straw hay and stubble?

Answer 1

When the rich young man asked Our Lord what he must do to gain eternal life, Our Lord answered: ``Keep the commandments.'' (Matt. 19:17). Thus, although faith is the beginning, it is not the complete fulfillment of the will of God. Nowhere in the Bible is it written that faith alone justifies. When St. Paul wrote, ``For we account a man to be justified by faith, without the works of the law,'' he was referring to works peculiar to the old Jewish Law, and he cited circumcision as an example.

The Catholic Church does not teach that purely human good works are meritorious for salvation; such works are not meritorious for salvation, according to her teaching. Only those good works performed when a person is in the state of grace--that is, as a branch drawing its spiritual life from the Vine which is Christ (John 15:4-6)--only these good deeds work toward our salvation, and they do so only by the grace of God and the merit of Jesus Christ. These good works, offered to God by a soul in the state of grace (i.e., free of mortal sin, with the Blessed Trinity dwelling in the soul), are thereby supernaturally meritorious because they share in the work and in the merits of Christ. Such supernatural good works will not only be rewarded by God, but are necessary for salvation.

St. Paul shows how the neglect of certain good works will send even a Christian believer to damnation: ``But if any man have not care of his own, and especially of those of his house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.'' (1 Tim. 5:8). Our Lord tells us that if the Master (God) returns and finds His servant sinning, rather than performing works of obedience, He ``shall separate him, and shall appoint him his portion with unbelievers.'' (Luke 12:46).

Furthermore, Catholics know they will be rewarded in Heaven for their good works. Our Lord Himself said: ``For the Son of man . . . will render to every man according to his works.'' (Matt. 16:27). ``And whosoever shall give to drink to one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, amen I say to you, he shall not lose his reward.'' (Matt. 10:42). Catholics believe, following the Apostle Paul, that ``every man shall receive his own reward, according to his own labor.'' (1 Cor. 3:8). ``For God is not unjust, that he should forget your work, and the love which you have shown in his name, you who have ministered, and do minister to the saints.'' (Heb. 6:10). ``I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith. As to the rest, there is laid up for me a crown of justice, which the Lord the just judge will render to me in that day: and not only to me, but to them also that love his coming.'' (2 Tim. 4:7-8).

Still, Catholics know that, strictly speaking, God never owes us anything. Even after obeying all God's commandments, we must still say: ``We are unprofitable servants; we have done that which we ought to do.'' (Luke 17:10). As St. Augustine (5th century) stated: ``All our good merits are wrought through grace, so that God, in crowning our merits, is crowning nothing but His gifts.''

Had St. Paul meant that faith ruled out the necessity of good works for salvation, he would not have written: ``. . . and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.'' (1 Cor. 13:2). If faith ruled out the necessity of good works for salvation, the Apostle James would not have written: ``Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only'? . . . For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.'' (James 2:24-26). Or: ``What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him?'' (James 2:14). If faith ruled out the necessity of good works for salvation, the Apostle Peter would not have written: ``Wherefore, brethren, labor the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time. For so an entrance shall be ministered to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.'' (2 Peter 1:10-11). If faith ruled out the necessity of good works for salvation, the primitive Christian Fathers would not have advocated good works in such powerful words. Wrote St. Irenaeus, one of the most illustrious of the primitive Christian Fathers: ``For what is the use of knowing the truth in word, while defiling the body and accomplishing the works of evil? Or what real good at all can bodily holiness do. if truth be not in the soul? For these two, faith and good works, rejoice in each other's company, and agree together and fight side by side to set man in the Presence of God.'' (Proof of the Apostolic Preaching). Justification by faith alone is a new doctrine; it was unheard of in the Christian community before the sixteenth century.

Answer 2

Works are the result or proof of faith but not the basis of salvation, Eph 2:8-9 as quoted above.

Works will be tested but not for salvation. The straw, hay and stubble will not meet the test! All those who have placed their faith in God and received the gift of His grace through Jesus will be saved.

...and the word is "accepted" not "excepted" balletwildflower. Big difference!

Answer 3

How bout this: Hate black human beings. Hate Jews. Hate Catholics. Beat your better half. forget approximately approximately your toddlers. evade going to church. purchase your liquor in a close-by city to evade been considered as a drinker. after which only SAY you're saved. it is so hassle-free! sign me up. faith with out sturdy WORKS IS lifeless. If what you declare to have self belief does no longer effect your existence yet is in basic terms words, then I heavily doubt which you're "saved" in any way, shape or form. plenty greater handy than the sacrifices mandatory to attempt to stay the Christian existence. only say the words and you will nonetheless hate all and sundry else who sees issues in any different case. only ask Jerry Falwell. carry forth against only approximately each thing, and only fake Gluttony only does not stick to to you. There now, wasn't that hassle-free? only SAY you have self belief. No reason to ought to evade gluttony or hatred or intolerance once you're already save-duh. That only does not artwork. yet admitting that could take openness and honesty. sturdy luck.

Answer 4

You have been given incorrect information concerning The Salvation Message... No "works" reguired.... if you have questions concerning the basics of The True Christian Faith you may email me... or check it out at: http://www.mikesfaith.com

All who come to God in The Way He prescribes will receive His free gift of salvation. Those become part of The Body of The Church of which Jesus The Christ is The Head. Those are the ones of The True Christian Faith. Only those of The Church will enter Heaven.

Answer 5

salvation is not of works, if you work for your salvation, you will die in your sins

salvation is a gift of God, by grace through faith, not of works lest any man should boast

the ref you make is to 1Cor 3, talking about the beama judgment seat of Christ, where the works of the christian are judged.

it is for reward, not salvation

Answer 6

You are right about the necessity of good works. Don't listen to the false doctrines of the Calvinists who want to excuse themselves from the requirements of charity, or who pretend charity is an automatic result of faith. Jesus tells us in Matt 25 that we will be judged by our works of charity.

The verses you allude to give St. Paul's teaching on heaven, purgatory and hell.

I Cor 3:12 If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames. Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.

Those who build with gold, silver, or costly stones are those who have fed and clothed our Lord by feeding and clothing the least of his brothers and sisters. They go expeditiously to heaven.

Those who build with wood, hay, or straw can expect their works to be burned away in purgatory, though they themselves will be saved.

Those who destroy the Temple of God in mortal sin will themselves be destroyed in hell.

Cheers,
Bruce

Answer 7

yes, it says (the bible) that if our works are hay we will still be saved (but only thru fire) we will suffer loss, if our works are gold and silver we will have our reward and be called to eternal life. the basic idea here tho, is the THE WORK IS NECESSARY. It dont say anything about faith, but of works as to our judgement. it is faith working thru love that is of gold faith working thru self interesst is of hay, all that is not done for the love of christ is useless.

Answer 8

This is speaking of rewards that are lost after
salvation because salvation can never be gained by good works.Salvation is a free gift
from God.

Answer 9

You have it backwards. The Bible says that salvation is "not of works, so than no one can boast". It is a free gift of God, by faith through grace.

Answer 10

Actually, salvation ultimately is based on our faith. (Ephesians 2:8, 9)

Works are evidence of our faith. (James 2:20)

Our works should be in harmony with God's will in order for them to have any value. -2 Peter 3:11

Answer 11

We are saved by faith. After we are saved, we are judged by our works. God bases our rewards in heaven on the works we perform here on earth. Some barely make it by the skin of their teeth and some have many crowns of reward.