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29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed:
29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men

This completely debunks Islam, the quran is sealed and Mohammed couldn't read. Remember this was written hundreds of years before the Quran!

2007-11-12 07:15:13 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Issiah if you must know

2007-11-12 07:20:00 · update #1

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That passage was a warnings to Jerusalem.

This vision us like the words of a book that is closed ans sealed. You may give the book to someone who can read and tell that person to read it. But he will say "I can't read the Book, because it is sealed." Or you may give the book to someone who cannot read and tell him to read it. But he will say, "I don't know how to read."
The Lords says they say they love and honor me, but their heart and action are not.

It is about people in general, and how they claim one thing, and inside they are something else.

Edit:
For argument sake, let us assume it was about Muhammad!!
Then, the second person would might apply to him. The Quran was not sealed to Muhammad. Since he was the one who delivered to to his people. And he was supposedly unable to read. Henceforth, he could be the one who would refuse to read on the premise that he can not.

Then, does that means Muhammad would claim to be near to God, and yet ruled by mans' laws! In another word. Does that means what he said is one thing, and what he believed is another! Think about it. Not so good if you want to apply it to him.

2007-11-12 07:27:48 · answer #1 · answered by Bravado Guru 5 · 10 2

Well, that's a fresh take on the prophecy of Isaiah! Initially, that passage referred to the scroll of Isaiah's prophecy and the way it was closed to the people it was addressed to - the Jewish nation of that era. Interestingly, both Jesus and the apostle Paul quoted from this, applying it to the Jews of Jesus' era who failed to recognise him as Messiah. Jesus applied it particularly to the religious leaders of his day.

In a general way it could be applied to anyone failing to understand by God's Holy Spirit how salvation comes to those believing God (his promises and prophecies in the Bible). Islamic people will be greatly offended by you applying this to them! Especially as the two reasons you give are inappropriate. It's not the Qur'an being sealed that is the point, and God has used many illiterate people as his witnesses.

If you want proof that the Qur'an needs to be debunked, just collate the handful of verses in it that speak of Jesus and compare that with what the Bible says. The two are not the same. No amount of Islamic protestations that they honor Jesus as a prophet covers over the fact that they hardly know a thing about Jesus because they rubbish some of the Old Testament as a corruption and virtually all of the New Testament as the work of Satan. They have no idea what the gospel of Jesus Christ was / is. They only think of him as a good man, miraculously born, who will return for 7 years prior to the Day of Judgment. They could write on the back of a postage stamp the sum total of their knowledge of Jesus. So, for them, the Bible is a sealed book and they are perfectly happy to keep it that way.

2007-11-12 15:35:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

In order for anyone to check on your reference, youmight want to include the name of the book in which it is located. There are 66 different books in the Bible. Without the name, as well as chaper and verse, it is almost impossible to tell what you are quoting.

2007-11-12 15:22:53 · answer #3 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 1 2

So you are saying Isaiah is showing that there will be false prophets in the future? False prophets who claim that their books are the final word, and cannot be changed? That could be Mohammad, and/or Joseph Smith, and/or Jesus... Hmm...

2007-11-12 15:33:45 · answer #4 · answered by XX 6 · 0 2

what is 29:11? can you be specific?

2007-11-12 15:19:03 · answer #5 · answered by theglad8er 3 · 0 0

Read the whole thing mate, that has nothing to do with Muhammad.

Isaiah 29
Woe to David's City
1 Woe to you, Ariel, Ariel,
the city where David settled!
Add year to year
and let your cycle of festivals go on.

2 Yet I will besiege Ariel;
she will mourn and lament,
she will be to me like an altar hearth. [a]

3 I will encamp against you all around;
I will encircle you with towers
and set up my siege works against you.

4 Brought low, you will speak from the ground;
your speech will mumble out of the dust.
Your voice will come ghostlike from the earth;
out of the dust your speech will whisper.

5 But your many enemies will become like fine dust,
the ruthless hordes like blown chaff.
Suddenly, in an instant,

6 the LORD Almighty will come
with thunder and earthquake and great noise,
with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

7 Then the hordes of all the nations that fight against Ariel,
that attack her and her fortress and besiege her,
will be as it is with a dream,
with a vision in the night-

8 as when a hungry man dreams that he is eating,
but he awakens, and his hunger remains;
as when a thirsty man dreams that he is drinking,
but he awakens faint, with his thirst unquenched.
So will it be with the hordes of all the nations
that fight against Mount Zion.

9 Be stunned and amazed,
blind yourselves and be sightless;
be drunk, but not from wine,
stagger, but not from beer.

10 The LORD has brought over you a deep sleep:
He has sealed your eyes (the prophets
he has covered your heads (the seers).

11 For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say to him, "Read this, please," he will answer, "I can't; it is sealed." 12 Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, "Read this, please," he will answer, "I don't know how to read."


13 The Lord says:
"These people come near to me with their mouth
and honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
Their worship of me
is made up only of rules taught by men. [b]

2007-11-12 15:20:16 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

Nope.

Mohammed is not in the Bible. The Bible does say many false prophets are coming, and Mohammed is a false prophet.

2007-11-12 15:19:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 5 3

No, people heard of Mohammed and then put that in the bible so that people would be enthralled with their predictions.

2007-11-12 15:23:48 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I guess, being that he was illiterate, but he was also the
Antichrist. See I John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

2007-11-12 15:25:33 · answer #9 · answered by br549 2 · 2 4

They are all false prophets since there is no god and all religions were created to control men. Muhammed just happened to be a warlord that used religion to try to conquer the world and kill christians and jews and atheists.

2007-11-12 15:22:43 · answer #10 · answered by Lionheart ® 7 · 1 4

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