Is being "Pro-Christ" per se being "Anti-Catholic" and vice versa?

Question

The Catholic Church takes the focus off Christ's sacrifice and the sovereignty of God by diffusing it through saints, idols, rituals, and false doctrine.

Is it safe to say that if I testify for Christ, I testify against the Roman Catholic Church? That is to say, telling the Truth about Christ is a de facto challenge to RCC's lies?

Answer 1

If you are truly Pro Christ, I would have to say that being so makes you against the Catholic religion. You see, the Catholic religion is not ordained by God. Actually, it is spoken against (you shall have no other gods before Me-1 of the 10 commandments, revamped in Matthew 19:16-22.

16Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"

17"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."

18"Which ones?" the man inquired.

Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, 19honor your father and mother,'[d] and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'[e]"

20"All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"

21Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.


Yes, this talks about having money before God, but the idea is the same. NO ONE should come before God. The catholic church puts the Pope as the head of the church. This is not ok. God/Jesus/Holy Spirit is the head of the one undivided church.

Safe to say, and I am glad that you have searched the truth far enough to see the discrepencies in the Catholic religion.

Answer 2

I suggest you go to a Catholic Mass sometime. There you will see that we most certainly do NOT take the focus off Christ's sacrifice and the sovereignty of God! Quite the contrary.

Really, facts are your friend. The truth will set you free. The Catholic Mass is a very biblically based worship service in which Christ is the whole focus. Not Mary or any of the other saints. No idols. No false doctrine.

If you're too frightened to go to a Catholic Mass -- though you shouldn't be because nobody's going to try to "recruit" you or anything -- read the Catechism of the Catholic Church on-line here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

or the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church for a briefer version in easy-to-read Q&A format.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html

Answer 3

I don't think it's as black & white as that - there are many Catholics who are "Pro-Christ". I was raised Catholic and although I am no longer Catholic (I am Christian) I was always "Pro-Christ" - not all Catholics take much stock in a lot of the defining characteristics of the Catholic church - prayer to Mary & saints, the sacraments, etc. For many, going through the sacraments (such as baptism, confirmation, confession, etc.) is more about the tradition than about the doctrine and belief behind them. So while being "Pro-Christ" can be considered "Anti-Catholic" when you get into doctrine & dogma, I don't think it applies to each individual. You can't tell a Catholic that they are not Christian - only God knows their heart.

Answer 4

I'm a Catholic. The Church hasn't taken the focus off Christ's sacrifice in any way. At our church, the focal point above the altar is a crucifix, a powerful symbol of Christ's Passion. How does being visually reminded of the Crucifixion every time I go to church take the focus off of Christ, exactly? As for "idols", there is nothing wrong with sacred art. The veneration of Mary and the saints also points toward Christ's sacrifice. The saints honored Christ during their lives, and Mary honored the will of God. It all points toward Christ's redemption. You may not approve of the Catholic style of worship, but regardless of what you think of it, it certainly honors God more than denominational bickering and factionalism.

Answer 5

You are free to say anything you like. 1 Corinthians 6:12 states, "all things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful."

To testify to Christ against the Church that He alone founded is not wisdom.

"Many HATE what they PERCEIVE of the Roman Catholicism, not the TRUTH of Roman Catholicism.

Investigate your FEAR. Disprove their Tenets or Beliefs if you can. Many have tried yet over 2000 years later Catholicism is still here.
Praise be Jesus Christ now and forever.

Answer 6

no.
but it is safe to say that if you think the Catholic Church isn't about Jesus, and the Roman Catholic Church is against Christ then you have been lied to and are misinformed.
to put it in your terms, anti-reality.


lost.eu/21618

Answer 7

properly... shall we see... i have been talked about as Little Pat through my wonderful buddy growing to be up. His sister changed into large Pat.. My dad talked about as me Patsy.. i have been talked about as Sassy Pat, because i do not options speaking up for what i think is ideal... My wonderful buddy each and every from time to time calls me Martha because i'm this style of little homebody who likes to practice dinner, putter and beautify. some woman who owns a interior sight small save ( she's from India) calls me Honey, each and each and every time i flow in. and obviously i have been elementary in a lot of circles as "u . s . lady" because it really is the position my heart is... Merry Christmas!

Answer 8

No, because last time I looked, they were christians and believed that Jesus was the saviour and all.

And for what it is worth, every doctrine thinks every other doctrine is false, so that's not exactly a counterpoint to "Catholics believe in Jesus"

Answer 9

Saints have lived holy lives by putting the focus on Christ.

Rituals are simply repeated actions that put the focus on Christ.

There are no idols or false doctrines in the Catholic Church.

+ Saints +

Saints are people in heaven or on their way to heaven. All Christians dead and alive are saints.

The Catholic Church selects some of the most extraordinary examples, does in-depth research, and canonizes them.

"By canonizing some of the faithful, i.e., by solemnly proclaiming that they practiced heroic virtue and lived in fidelity to God's grace, the Church recognizes the power of the Spirit of holiness within her and sustains the hope of believers by proposing the saints to them as models and intercessors."

http://www.nccbuscc.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p3.htm#828

+ Rituals +

Rituals are all around us. Humans are ritualistic beings. We make rituals out of everything.

In our everyday lives, kissing your spouse hello and goodbye, shaking hands with friends and strangers, prayers before meals and bed, celebrating holidays the "family" way, even doing your morning toilette.

Rituals also give reassurance to children, adding a sense of confidence through repetition. Family members are brought together and bonds are strengthened.

Society has rituals: graduations, inaugurations, the Independence Day, New Years, Halloween, parades, the Olympics opening ceremonies.

Religion also has rituals, like baptism, marriage, and funerals.

This is the way humans live, celebrate and rejoice. This is also how we pass our values and traditions onto future generations.

+ Idols +

Do you have pictures of your loved ones? Have you ever looked at the picture of someone while talking on the phone to them?

Statues and pictures of people we love are not idols.

Statues and paintings of Jesus and the saints are just like pictures of the people we love and respect.

The King James Version of the Bible states in Exodus 20:4: "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth"

Why were the Jews commanded not to make graven images? Graven images were the standard method of pagan worship. They were representations of false gods.

This is a very clear command.

However God commanded the Jews in Exodus 25:18 and 1 Chronicles 28:18–19, "And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them"

And in 1 Kings chapter 7 Solomon made bulls and other images out of precious metals.

It seems obvious that the Jews did not worship the cherubims and Solomon did not worship the bulls he had made. These images did not violate the command of God. Therefore, an image not made for worship is acceptable.

In Numbers 21:8-9, "And the LORD said to Moses, "Make a saraph and mount it on a pole, and if anyone who has been bitten looks at it, he will recover." Moses accordingly made a bronze serpent and mounted it on a pole, and whenever anyone who had been bitten by a serpent looked at the bronze serpent, he recovered."

And in John 3:14-15, Jesus says in correlation, "And just as Moses lifted up the [image of a] serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life."

How can a statue of our Lord Jesus Christ dead on the cross be considered an idol to a false god? A crucifix is the message of the Gospel without words held up for all to see, a visual reminder of the sacrifice of Jesus, no different from a painting, a play, or a movie.

How can a nativity set set up in your house to constantly remind you and teach your children of God's love for use be idolotry?

Catholics do not worship statues but the almighty God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

+ False Doctrines +

You do not mention which doctrines that you feel are false so I cannot speak to them. But I can show you the Nicene Creed (from the year 325), a summary of our beliefs. Which of these doctrines do you believe are false?

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us and our salvation He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

For a complete description of what Catholics believe, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/index.htm

With love in Christ.

Answer 10

I disagree with your assertion, being a Roman Catholic and all.