Does anyone know where to find stats...?

Question

for the highest average finish in the standings? What I'm wondering is who has the highest average for their entire career. I can find winning percentage and that kind of information but not the average in the final standings. Thanks for your help.

Thanks for the link but I am looking for the average finish in the STANDINGS for the career of drivers like Dale Earnhardt Sr., Richard Petty and David Pearson plus the current drivers. Not their average running or even finishing positions. I could go through each driver's stats and figure it out but I was hoping that it was already available somewhere.

Answer 1

What you are looking for is not an exact quantifiable method of determining talent across the eras or even totally dependable for drivers of the same era. If you start a race, you get points, thereby keeping you up in the rankings. Miss a few races due to injury and you score no points, dropping you like a rock.

Practically no drivers of the early eras competed in all the races available to them. Petty won at least 2 Titles by running more races and having more winnings than his competitors in those years.

I did some calculations for Earnhardt, Petty and Pearson.

Calculations were made on all drivers using criteria, such as full and nearly full seasons. Keeping years in which a driver competed in all or in nearly all the races and throwing out seasons in which less than half of the races were run by the driver, etc. A year in which a driver competed in 79% or more of all races was counted as a full year.

Earnhardt in 22 full years and 666 races run averaged a final ranking of 4.4545. (30.27 average annual races)

Petty in 32 full years consisting of 1140 races run averaged a final ranking of 8.3125. (1965 excluded-14 out of 55 races-38th). (35.625 average annual races)

If you throw out his last 9 full seasons, the over-the-hill years, and exclude 1965 as well as seasons with less than 79% compete rates, he climbs to a 3 final ranking.

Pearson never competed in a full season including his 3 Championship years so any comparison is moot.

But here goes.

Out of 1067 available races, he competed in 574 and has career average ranking for all 27 years of 23.592, and this is for a driver that won 18.29% of all races he entered. He also finished in the top ten 63.67% of the time and top five 52.439% of the time. (21.259 average annual races)

You also have to take into consideration the various points systems in play through the years. As an example, in Petty's early years the points system was really whack. Look at his link, http://www.racing-reference.info/raceyear?yr=1967&series=W , scroll down to the season standings and look at point totals and races run by each driver in the top 20.

If you don't want to look, here's a brief summary:

49 race season
Petty competed in 48, the most of any driver and won the Title.
2nd place ran 46 races
Point margin 6,028 points.

It wasn't uncommon for a driver to have competed in a lot fewer races and be ranked higher than other drivers. Why? Winnings were used in a convoluted formula to calculate points. (Position + winnings(current year) divided by x then multiplied by y)

****and people are complaining about the Chase****

For comparison, two current (modern era) and post modern era (chase).

Jeff Gordon is at 4.8667 in 15 full years consisting of 507 races.

Jimmie Johnson is at 2.6667 in 6 full years consisting of a mere 215 races.

I don't know of a site that has this stat on all drivers, probably because of all the variables involved makes comparisons undependable if not impossible.

For example, Petty in all 35 years, partial, full, injury years, etc has a 9.4857 average ranking. He never competed in less than 9 races and has an career worst ranking of 38th.

Earnhardt in all 27 years in which he ran a race has a 15.5185 ranking. That includes 2001(1 race-57th) as well as 1976 (2 races-103rd), 1977 (1 race-118th) and 1978 (5 races-43rd).


Jimmie Johnson's only partial year was 2001(3 races-52nd) if included gives a career average ranking of 9.7143


Gordon's only partial year is 1992 (1 race-79th) and if included gives him a career average ranking of 9.5.


As you can see, depending on the criteria used, the results will vary greatly.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007/data/stats/season_avg_running_pos.html

Can you believe Jr is 7th with all of his bad luck.

Edit: Oh, OK I'll check some more

OK You'll have to piece the information together but here is a ton of information.
http://www.racing-reference.info/driver.htm

Also you might like this site
http://www.onebadwheel.com/nascar/nascar-season-standings.php

Answer 4

Nascar All Time Wins list!!!!!

Answer 5

This isn't what you want but the top 10 every year is on one page.

http://www.jayski.com/stats/top10-alltime.htm