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who was he paying the ransom to as that is what ransom is, a price to be paid?

2007-11-12 01:34:02 · 18 answers · asked by Plato 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

bearing in mind that Jesus is God!

2007-11-12 01:38:22 · update #1

Surely Jesus came to show us the way
He cried when his friend Lazarus died maybe because sin and the devil brought death into the world
could jesus not have redeemed us without dying?
If not then why blame those Romans & Jews of the time for his death if it was pre-ordained?

2007-11-12 01:54:46 · update #2

That's a reasonable answer Just me but then Jesus could not have been our Saviour and paid the price if he were not God!

2007-11-12 02:33:22 · update #3

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He was paying it to the father commanded that there be a price to pay.

Jesus is also the son of God, sent by the father, to pay the price of sin. There is emphasis on Christ being fully divine but there is also emphasis on him being fully human which the father is not. Nevertheless, There is much more emphasis on his being the son of God - for that purpose. Scripture also makes it clear that he voluntarily laid down his divine rights and abilities so that he can fully identify with the human race and that he might be fully qualified to redeem them.

Listen you need to make your questions more clear...I cannot logically follow your thought process from the past couple previous edits you made. They seem to be several good ideas but they don't seem follow each other in a flowing manner so as to make it understandable to the reader. For example, I'm not sure what you are trying to imply by saying Jesus cried about lazarus and then about christ's death, his pre-ordination etc and what it may have been dependent on. You should take more care in adding your thoughts. I am interested in talking with you more about this though. Honestly, the best thing to do for yourself is to stop trying to combine everyone else's opinions into one. It just can't be done. There are too many different denominations that have too many differing views, also many christians have differing views that may not even agree with the denomination's that they belong to. The best thing for you to do is to read the bible for yourself and formulate your own opinions of God by what it says about itself. If its God that you inquire about, read the source that claims its origins from God. If you are sincerely interested, I would be very happy to continue this conversation. I've spent a lot of time being confused at christians as a whole, and what they really believe until I started finding out for myself. Honestly, most christians hardly ever read the bible. Sadly many of them formulate thier own opinions out of their own speculations rather than what the bible has to say. Even though they may claim its what the bible says, a lot of times its really not.

2007-11-12 01:36:49 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6 2

I never have understood why a loving father would send his son to die a death like that. I mean he is god right? I am sure if he was all powerful then there could be a better way. I think Jesus did indeed exists, he had parents who were fundies and told him he was gods son and that got him in a whole world of trouble with the religious folks and they killed him.

2007-11-12 01:40:45 · answer #2 · answered by Celtickarma 4 · 1 0

Ummmmm...

I hate to have to be the one to point this out, what with me being an atheist and all, but Jesus wasn't God. God created Jesus. In fact, Jesus was the fisrt recognisably sentient creature God did create.

As for that whole ransome thing, it boils down to a situation where, since it took a perfect man (Adam) to bring about the gravitation of man in to sin it took a perfect man (Jesus) to show imperfect humans how they might gain ascendancy over their birthright and strive toward a sufficiently higher state of grace to gain a place in a prophesied new order.

It's a metaphor which tries to outline the relationships between temptation and disobedience with consequences and the price we have to pay for doing what we know to be wrong. And it concludes with the hope woven in to our endeavours to rise above our baser selves in pursuit of a more worthwhile existence.

And stuff...

2007-11-12 02:29:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

He paid a price for telling truth and for following a path different from others. If U refuse to sail with the stream, U invite trouble. But He was son of God. We too r son of God but he had realized God while we haven't. That is the difference between enlightened and stupid people. He died at the hands of stupid people so that after he had gone, people follow path shown by him. Yes, he paid the price for following truth. We all should be ready if we're prevented from following right path. This is the message of Christ. Let U know, I'm not a Christian but still I can realize that Christ was carbon copy of God of our imagination. So there is nothing wrong if we call him son of God. That's because God is one and only one. This is my logic. U might have yours. But I don't agree that he paid for our sins. No one else can pay for our sins. Christ himself chose that path. He sailed against the stream.

2007-11-12 01:46:27 · answer #4 · answered by sandeep m 6 · 0 1

God said the wages of sin is death, so Jesus was taking the death penalty for us.
Hosea 13:14
I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death:

2007-11-12 03:58:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

A symbolic ransom. Sacrificing Himself, taking the blame for the sins of humanity.

2007-11-12 01:39:35 · answer #6 · answered by ? 6 · 0 1

Evidently, before a perfect, righteous, and just God, there is an understanding that not all is perfect and righteous. Sin has corrupted Creation, including man. While we are alive in body, God separates Himself from us, otherwise we would be destroyed in a moment in His presence. (Fortunately, Christ sends the Holy Spirit to believers.) This is what God said to Moses in Exodus, when Moses petitioned God to be with them on their way to the Promised Land.

Some of the angels and all of man, except Jesus, have sinned out of the free will God has granted us. Jesus, however, remained faithful to the Father, even unto death; He was sinless. The price of sin is shed blood. According to Ecc. 3, we all have an appointed time to die, for we are all sinners (Rom. 3:23).

Without a way to become right, or justified, with God the Father, we would all be under a hopeless sentence of condemnation to not only bodily death, but also the second death, i.e. lake of fire (Rev. 20). We cannot work or buy our way into God's favor - He is that perfect and righteous. Our greatest good deeds are but filthy rags before Him. Job said that he was insignificant, during God's rebuke. He said he was but dust and ashes. He humbled himself and repented. He claimed the calamity of God was a terror to Him. Yet, Job was a man of God, turning away from evil. Who are we to think we are somehow in better standing before a holy God? We all deserve eternal torment in the unceasing flames intensified by our own haughtiness.

We have already been sentenced to this horrible fate by a just God - God the Father - for our detestible and miserable sins.

But out of love, God showed us mercy, by sending His only Son to do for us what we could not do -- restore a right relationship with God the Father. Jesus Christ lived a faithful, sinless life and died a sin-bearing death so that all those thereafter who place their faith (belief, trust, and obedience) in Jesus Christ will be justified before God the Father. Their sins will be forgiven: past, present, and future. Further, they will inherit the kingdom of God and eternal life.

Before a just God, a price had to be paid for our sins. We could not pay that price on our own, resulting in a just future of death and eternal torment. But just before we were hauled out of the courtroom in chains, someone came in and said, "Honorable Judge, I love this condemned man and wish to pay the price for his release." That person is Jesus Christ.

His death was sufficient to satisfy the Father, such that all those who place their faith in Christ will have the righteousness of Christ imputed to them. They will have their sins forgiven, and find salvation. They will be redeemed, or ransomed from the second death. The price that was paid was the very death of God's only Son, who God resurrected on the third day following His death. The price was paid, if you will, to God the Father, who, because of His just and righteous nature, demanded a price for sin...and He sent His only Son to pay it for us.

2007-11-12 02:15:17 · answer #7 · answered by BowtiePasta 6 · 1 1

Humanity was taken captive by Satan. Christ paid the ultimate price to release us from the power and penalty of sin - which gives us eternal life instead of eternal death.

2007-11-12 01:42:31 · answer #8 · answered by cheir 7 · 1 2

Mel Gibson.

2007-11-12 01:39:42 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Justice demands eternal death for sin. God is just. Christ's death was the payment demanded for our sins by our just God.

2007-11-12 01:48:38 · answer #10 · answered by Horton Heard You! 4 · 1 2

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