Suppose there are 2 people who have accepted Christ as their Saviour. One does right for sometime and then does evil and dies during his evil deeds. The other does the exact same thing, but in a different order and dies during his good deeds. Would the first go to hell and the second to heaven simply because of the order in which they did it?
2007-11-12 01:15:36 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Salvation is the false belief that you will, somehow, be rewarded after you die. That depends on believing the superstitions about God. Religion is all just superstition. There are no gods.
There really is no salvation, because there is no afterlife. When we die, we're just dead. It really doesn't matter what some 2000 year old zealots wrote.
2007-11-12 01:19:42 · answer #1 · answered by nondescript 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
This is a really good question. I think it may have been read wrong by some though. Becoming born again is not something you can just do physically. It involves a HUGE commitment mentally and spiritually. That is why so many fall short. Christians call people who are saved and then walk away from Christ "back-slidden." Now, let's make sure people get what I'm saying. If you live and breathe the Word of God, and then you stop one day and turn towards sin you are no longer saved just because you once were. There are some Christians who believe that but I do not, nor does the church I attend. However, if we're talking about someone who is strong in their Christianity, and then sins right before they died and didn't have time to repent, then by all means the Lord will forgive them. We are all sinners, and God knows that. That's why he sent his only son, Jesus, to die on the cross for us. As far as the second person who lives a sinful life and then turns to God right before he died. Well, Amen! As long as that person asked forgiveness from God for their sinful life and admitted that the way they had been living was wrong, and told God that they wanted to make an honest effort to live for him, then God would gladly welcome them into His Kingdom.
2007-11-12 01:34:26 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
The word speaks that not one man is righteous. Then it continues to speak on the point that no man can make it to heaven by his deeds because they are futile. It said that because a wicked man can also do good deeds to the same capacity, but it does not mean that he has transformed.
The word speaks that the one who repented and stuck with it will be the one who God will recieve. If the one who did good deeds then bad confessed with his heart before his death the Lord will recieve him. Just alike if the one did bad then good will be bound by the same law. The only difference is that the Lord will apply the expectation to his law from abstaining from the action that made him sin.
We are all accountable for our own and his word.
2007-11-12 10:59:17 · answer #3 · answered by GodCares 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If after your supposed conversion your life is marked more by sin than righteounous, then you will go to Hell.
You see the person that seems to follow Jesus for a time, then falls away and stays away was never with Him in the first place.
In America we have decided that praying a prayer to ask Jesus in your heart is the way of salvation, but that is not Biblical. Only through Godly repentance based upon changing our mind about God, about ourselves(seeing ourselves as wicked, evil, depraved) understanding God would be just in condemming us to hell, and believing the Jesus fully paid our sin debt on the cross. That leads to salvation, and once saved you are given a new heart and a new spirit, The new heart and new spirit makes you want to do what is right(God's standard) and makes you not want to do wrong. You may occassionaly fall into sin, but it is not the pratice of your life anymore. And you grow day by day sinning less and less.
If this is not the way your life has been going since your suppossed salvation, then examine yourself in light of scripture, it is better to examine yourself today, than for Christ to examine you after you die.
Read the book of 1 John. It is a series of test to help you know if you are saved or not.
2007-11-12 01:30:54 · answer #4 · answered by inspiring_type 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Bible evidently states, "he who endures to the tip, he would be saved" (Matt 24:13; Mark 13:13). That makes it surprisingly clean, do no longer you think of? the actual flaw on your question is the fake concept that we can actual grow to be irreversibly saved throughout the time of our time on earth. Protestants use the term "being saved" to characterize making a dedication to Christ, however the term is deceptive. through fact the above passages for sure point out, salvation happens on the tip of existence, no longer any time previously then. it somewhat is through fact no rely how faithfully we are following Christ as we communicate, we nonetheless have loose will and we are nonetheless subject to temptation, and hence we can nonetheless turn our backs on Him day after today, as some do. while this happens, Protestants say, "nicely he replaced into in no way saved interior the 1st place". spectacular! And neither is all and sundry else. Earthly existence is the line to salvation, yet we are saved - or no longer saved - only as quickly as we attain the tip of that street. .
2016-10-02 04:40:15 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The gospel is not about what you do what what Christ has done. Salvation is by grace - it is a gift of God (Eph. 2:8) and is not contingent on what you do.
Does this mean I can go out and sin after I am saved? The apostle Paul says in Romans 6:2;
"God forbid"! "How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"
The effects of salvation is a renewed will - one that seeks to do the will of God. Thus a Christian that says they are saved, but continues in serious sin is showing evidence that they were never a child of God to begin with. A good tree bears good fruit and a bad tree bears bad fruit (Matt. 12:33).
2007-11-12 01:25:48 · answer #6 · answered by Brian 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Salvation can be lost. For those who believe that it can't, how do they account for the person who turned to evil, as in your example - and died unrepentant?
We must ask for God's forgiveness, and we must strive to stay in His grace. It's the whole reason why we must resist temptation and work toward holiness.
2007-11-12 01:24:09 · answer #7 · answered by Danny H 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
NO!
We are saved by faith alone in Jesus, who is God, and who died for our sins on the cross and rose again. If we sin the split second that we die, we still go to heaven if we believe this about Jesus.
Works cannot save.
It is impossible to lose or "leave" salvation (1 John 5).
2007-11-12 01:18:58 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 2⤋
who told us that faith alone can save?there is no such verse in the bible instead you can read that faith without work is dead James 2:17 and faith alone is insufficient coz you will not be justified James 1:24.those are of satan have also faith alone james 2:19.and in the judgment dayyou will be judge accdg to your work Rev.20:12.
i choose the 2nd person,theres so many things to consder but in ur example il give Heb.6:4-6
2007-11-12 01:35:00 · answer #9 · answered by ace nathaniel 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Wow this is awesome news. I can rape, pillage and murder like the Vikings used to and as long as I see the light before I die, it's all good. This whole religious thing has a lot going for it!
2007-11-12 01:21:17 · answer #10 · answered by UpChuck 3 · 0⤊ 4⤋