Hillary and socialized medicine?

Question

Do you think that Hillary or any of her family or cronies would wait for extended periods of time in a hospital waiting room due to the large quantity of people there waiting for their free treatment? ER staff can tell you that the people that get free medical treatment abuse this "free" treatment and visit the ER for minor afflictions.

Do you think that she would go to just any doctor for treatment or do you think she would seek out the best doctor? Well, under socialized health care the best doctors leave to freer countries that have better opportunities for them.

Do you think that she would be happy with drug companies ceasing research and development of new medicines because they are "hindered by price control and regulations"?

Do you think she or any of her obese cronies would want to be banned from eating the way they want to eat because "too much fat in the diet is a health risk and should be regulated by the government to keep health care costs down"? Fat chance.

This is in response to the so called "Princess"
First of all - you say that no other country is freer that the United States and they all have socialized medicine. Don't you realize that people from other countries come here for treatment because they want the BEST treatment not what their crummy country has?? We have the best treatments and physicians in the world here. Wake up!
Secondly - don't you see that the government is already starting a campaign against unhealthy food and unhealthy practices already? Wake up!
Thirdly - you think that people will not go to the ER when they can't get into the doctor's office beacuse it is filled with nimwits that have minor aliments like themselves? Wake up!

Answer 1

Socialized Medicine ( SM )is NOT a sound approach to improving medical care for Americans. Socialized Medicine is a quasi-COMMUNIST approach that has been adopted by Democratic countries like Canada.

Hillary's pro-Marxist remarks are a HUGE concern I carry as I am suspect of her presidential intentions. Hillary hails the Communist Red Star behind a pretty facade of the American Flag; the proverbial Wolf in sheep's clothing.

But SM is being groomed for a shot in America. I don't see how the Physician's lobby and Pharmaceutical lobby (both behemoth sized AND powerful) can support SM. And you can believe the medical insurance lobby carries passionate oppositions to SM as well.......

SM surely will dictate salary caps on doctor's salaries and freeze medicine prices to affordable levels--something we can cheer, sayng "it's about dam time". But bear in mind: SM is a COMMUNIST approach to a social problematic issue.

If America adopts ONE Communist policy--you can bet others will follow.....and within a decade later.....the New World Order will NOT become the America millions of soldiers and sailors fought and died in wars defending our country!!

A vote for Hillary is a vote for a Communist sympathizer.

Answer 2

Just to address a few of your points..

1- Doctors would not leave for "freer countries that have better opportunities for them" because all other developed nations have "socialized medicine", there would not be a system like the current US one anywhere else in the world for them to flee to.

2- Do you know anything about how it works in other countries? They haven't banned cigarettes or unhealthy food in Canada or Europe. The Netherlands has legal drugs and socialized medicine nicely running side by side.

3- In a socialized medical system, people don't have to go to ER for minor ailments. They go to a doctor's office. Duh. In these countries, the ER is for emergencies only.

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OK, to address YOUR response-

1- Fine if you think the US has the best doctors and quality of care (it does- for those who can pay), what I am saying is, making the system socialized isn't going to drive the good doctors away because there will be nowhere un-socialized for them to go. If your problem is that doctor's from other countries might stop going to the US, well, a lot Americans can't afford these doctors anyway- and maybe they'd be better off using their skills in the country that trained them- they need good doctors too. Is it really fair for the US to charge it's citizen's outrageous prices for health care (leaving some without any cover at all), so they can poach all the good doctor's from other countries? So only the rich Americans get access to the world's best? Not really ethical.

2- Healthy eating and anti-smoking agendas are not just about social healthcare- the economy needs a healthy workforce (who can pay for their insurance) and obviously people are ignorant on how to take care of themselves and their kids, so it's partle educational. Maybe you don't agree with that, but I'm just saying, it's not all about healthcare.

3- I am speaking from experience here. I lived in the US most of my life, and I have sat in emergency rooms for entire days at a time. Since moving to the UK I have been to the emergency room 3 times, and never waited more than 2 hours. The ER will turn you away if it isn't serious because they know you are able to go to your doctor's office for free. I have never had a problem getting an appointment, and I don't know anyone who has.

Answer 3

There are many up and downs that can be argued for this Socialized Medicine / National Healthcare issue. First off the term "Socialized" is deemed from the Conservatives to throw the assumption in our minds that this is something "communistic" in nature. But here are a few facts and please I do not deem my self as a bleeding heart liberal but these are some facts...

The U.S, already has a national plan in place... It is called MEDICARE. This program runs on the same basis as Socialized Medicine. It is put in place usually for the seniors who are on Social Security.Why not open it up to all?

The best doctors would not leave for "freer" places as you state because 1)they would still make a fantastic living and 2)where is there any freer places at this point.

The same companies that make drugs here for an unlimited price are the same companies that make and sell drugs available in Canada at, what you call, price control. If they are putting so much money in research and development then how do ALL the pharm companies make billions in profits each year. Looks to me like there are several billion not going to research if the profits are that staggering. On top of it these companies only have a desire to "control" these ailments instead of finding cures because controlling continues to keep the profits coming in when cures would not.

There are countless stories of people being denied treatment for illnesses up and including cancer, diabetes, HIV, etc from Big Insurance because some cronies sit on a board and decide that it is "not necessary" because they are placed there by the stock holders and they themselves own countless shares themselves. These people die within months from lack or affordable treatment. This sounds more damaging then any ER abuse that I can think of happening, as you state.

Next.... We keep hearing about the countless "scare" tactics of rising taxes beyond control for National Healthcare yet we seem to miss the fact that if we eliminate the Insurance Company "middleman " then there is enough right there to almost completely fund a program. In other words add up all there profits plus the minimal amount that do spend on claims and there is more then enough to almost fund this program alone with minimal tax increases, if any.

Yes, you mention types of ER abuse and these program abuses occur in any program. Other measures would need to be put in place to prevent such things as these or the continual obese individual or even smokers, etc. but until a program exists this issues can never be addressed

For every 10 "downs" someone can give for National Healthcare there can 25 "up". Please don’t use references to Cuba and other places as this because these are not free lands so a comparison can not be made to "third world" places when it comes to National or as you say Socialized programs such as these.

Although we thrive as a Capitalistic society there are things that shouldn't be or should have ever been put in the Capitalistic system and healthcare is just one...... Gee, I think another is........ OIL.

Thank You

Answer 4

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Answer 5

Not to mention, Hillary has already promised to give 30 million illegal aliens Social Security benefits and MORE free healthcare.
This will cost an astronomical amount of money. She'll pay for it by taxing us to death.

Answer 6

at least she's trying to do SOMETHING. No matter what she does, someone will be out there trying to find fault with her. Just like President Bush. There's plenty of people that won't let up.

Answer 7

doctors here wont leave cause they make too much money and will stay either way and if they do leave they can be replaced

Answer 8

it works in other countrys so why not.