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Where it stated the the word the rabbinical jews say means an absolute one in the Bible verse, The Lord our God is ONE, but in actuality it means a plurality. What is the word in question? This was many years age. Please help. Was debating an honest jewish believer who loves truth.

2007-11-10 06:17:30 · 11 answers · asked by Ace of Spades 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

But what was the word used in the hebrew massoretic texts we have. Was it Echad or Yahid?

2007-11-10 06:51:25 · update #1

11 answers

The Hebrew word "echad" can mean one in pleurality (it doesn't always, you must look at the context); conversely, the Hebrew word "yahid" always means an absolute one.

For example, when God said that a man and woman become "one" when they marry, the Scriptures use the word "echad."

EDIT: (((((((Dusty Scribe))))))) Thank you, brother.

SECOND EDIT: I guess my answer was a bit too vague. The actual word used there is "echad." Reading right to left, the Hebrew is: "Shema Y'israel Adonai Eloheynu Adonai echad," or "Hear, Israel the LORD our God is One LORD."

2007-11-10 06:24:53 · answer #1 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 4 0

You have to remember the context of the time that this was written in. And who wrote it. Way back then there were only Jews and Gentiles. Jews worshipped one God. Jews were the first human group to found a monotheism. One God. All others, Gentiles worshiped dozens, even hundreds of gods. Even today, Jews follow the written text of their holy book - The Torah. (the Old Testament) There is the Lord, YHWH, Jehovah, Emmanuel, etc..... different names for the One God. The God they were not allowed to even say his Name. This is why it is said so many times in the OT - ...." the name of the Lord is............" (See Prov18:10) The plurality of God only comes into being with the coming of Jesus Christ. Jesus brings into the world the Trinity - The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and this is what makes Christianity different that anything else on the face of the earth. Jews were the Chosen People to carry God's Word from the beginning of time and God sent His Son, Jesus of Nazareth, to become The Christ, The Messiah and was Jewish (God's Chosen) to ensure that His Word would carry on through time. The Jews rejected Jesus and have been, therefore, rejected by God until such time, as everyone, they accept His Word and come to understand the new and everlasting covenant.
Read all of John 3. ..........."he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
This is why there are so many Messianic Jews out there. They cannot come to understand the whole truth of the new covenant of Jesus Christ. They cling to all the OT stuff but still believe that Jesus is the Christ.
It still comes down to faith. What EXACTLY do you believe?

2007-11-10 06:45:52 · answer #2 · answered by craig b 7 · 0 0

Maybe this may help-

4 “Listen, Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One.[
Deut 6:4 (HCSB)

This verse has been called the Shema, from the Hebrew word translated Hear. The statement in this verse is the basic confession of faith in Judaism. The verse means that the Lord (Yahweh) is totally unique. He alone is God. The Israelites could therefore have a sense of security that was totally impossible for their polytheistic neighbors. The “gods” of the ancient Near East rarely were thought of as acting in harmony. Each god was unpredictable and morally capricious. So a pagan worshiper could never be sure that his loyalty to one god would serve to protect him from the capricious wrath of another. The monotheistic doctrine of the Israelites lifted them out of this insecurity since they had to deal with only one God, who dealt with them by a revealed consistent righteous standard. This confession of monotheism does not preclude the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. “God” is plural (’ĕlōhm), possibly implying the Trinity, and one (’eḥād̠) may suggest a unity of the Persons in the Godhead (cf. Gen. 2:24, where the same word for “one” is used of Adam and Eve).—Bible Knowledge Commentary

2007-11-10 06:27:37 · answer #3 · answered by Poor Richard 5 · 2 0

I never heard of apologetics until I starting going to church about twenty years ago.
I believe the Bible to be the inerrant word of
God.This is the foundation of the true Christian faith.
I don't know your Jewish friend,nor his heart,but
I do have the word of God on my desk.May I
say in my heart with all truth,it isn't a dust collector.I study it!Having said this,your friend may be a Christian,but a play on words from this man could be deceiving or he could be deceiving himself by saying God is plural to his way of thinking. I do know what God says about the trinity.I also know that Jews do not believe in Jesus Christ,nor do they believe the word of God. Believing there is a God and believing in him are two different things entirely.
God says even the devil believes and trembles.
This won't get him, (the devil)back into heaven.

2007-11-10 06:53:22 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I tried looking in the back of my Bible concordance- it has a Hebrew language dictionary- but it only lists the Hebrew words, followed by the English meaning.
If you know what verse of the Old Testament it is listed under, go to your local Christian bookstore and pick up a copy of "The New Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible"- it has a Hebrew dictionary in the back.

2007-11-10 06:27:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous 6 · 0 0

I oftentimes can parent it out from the way its used, if i'm getting to the top of the paragraph and nevertheless don't understand i pass look it up. i do unlike no longer be attentive to-how something lol lol do no longer venture, i'm a dork too, i like to maintain a workstation close while i'm interpreting so i will write it down and the definition. I oftentimes look online because of the fact my pocket dictionary has been grew to become right into a coloring e book.

2016-11-11 01:15:44 · answer #6 · answered by fones 4 · 0 0

Some languages like French, Turkish, Arabic and Hebrew, have pronouns that are plural in origin but are used to refer to one person.

French: Vouz
Turkish: Siz
Arabic: Entum

Etc...these are called the royal pronouns because they are used to show respect to someone when addressing them.

English has none.

2007-11-10 06:33:36 · answer #7 · answered by Antares 6 · 1 0

Elohim? It refers to multiple gods, or something like that, and Christians use it to prove a trinity. The Hebrews/Israelites/Jews never believed in a trinity.

2007-11-10 06:27:43 · answer #8 · answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5 · 0 0

El - God.
Elohim - Gods

Both used to name God in Genesis.

Has been taken by Catholics and most other Christians as evidence that God is three-in-one.

2007-11-10 06:25:53 · answer #9 · answered by Granny Annie 6 · 0 0

Go back and read again ONE MEANS SINGLE..NOT PLUREL....even in Hebrew....( Onesimus )(Meonenim)(onesiphorus)

One appears 1967 times in 1695 verses..in the Bible
It is SINGLE not PLUREL

2007-11-10 06:31:30 · answer #10 · answered by hghostinme 6 · 0 2

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