About the State of Israel: What do you think about this Jewish group and their arguments?

Question

http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm

No, Angel P, Neturei Karta really is a Jewish group, there's no doubt about that. Check this page if you don't believe me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta

Answer 1

NK is a fundamental Jewish group that is tightly bound to Jewish scripture. They are the true Jews on earth.

Answer 2

Neturei Karta are only a few hundred members and they are split into 2 groups, the most extreme such as the link you posted are not even a hundred people and there have been talks about ex communicating them for treason. What is funny is most of them live in Israel.


Anyways Neturei Karta believe that when the Messiah comes, all the "Palestinians" will be kicked out of Israel

Answer 3

The God and the belief cannot meddle with politics of a nation Israel and the Jewish community on its survival ! They are intelligent and powerful to stay there despite all opposition of the entire Arab world!

There may be division in the Jewish community on the lines of Judaism and Zionism which cannot be a rule to deny the existence of the State Of Israel and no one in the right mind could accept this ! In the best interest of all, the Palestinians have only one option of living in peace and harmony with Israel !

All that on the website is crap to be ignored !

Answer 4

this group is against the state of israel because it's not a theocracy or rabinocracy or sanhedrino-cracy. they'd rather be under a "goyish" (gentile) rule than be under a non religious jewish govenment.
they believe that they are the "keepers of jerusalem" (neturei - keepers or watchers, karta - city).
they are yet another group in jerusalem, they make a lot of noise but dont have a lot of clout.

Answer 5

Neturei Karta is a tiny group pf fanatics that exists on the fringes. The only reason they have any profile at all is that they are the favourites of anti-Semites.

Answer 6

I find it strange.. because the Torah specifically states that all of the jewish people must go to Jerusalem for Pesach or they are to be cut off from their people. So, it seems to me that they'd kind of need a country to do that, considering that the palestinians don't want them to even live, much less come there. Eh, it's a website.. they are vast and numerous in internet land.

Answer 7

Obviously Zionism is not the same as Judaism and not all Jews support Israel (which has an apalling humans rights record).

The argument linked to assumes there's a god, so all that part seems silly to me.

Answer 8

Apparently, they do not believe that it was God that used the events and people to return the Jews to the land.
This is what happened, whether or not they wish to believe it.
As far as the Zionist/Political angle, I can see where they are not all one and the same.
I think a re-examination of the prophecies will be good. This has certainly motivated me to re-read for myself. Thank you.

Answer 9

It's kind of arrogant and racist in a way. I mean, their ideology won them no friends in Europe and they got kicked out but they had nowhere to go. How convenient that their religion tells them that Israel is their land as stated by their god. Never mind about the people living there, they're only a bunch of primitive goat herders anyway who could do with some civilizing.

Answer 10

I think people's arguments should be based upon the state of thier women's beauty and willingness to get involved in girl-girl action.

so the question is, do you want a better looking girl who might do so but will whine about it afterwards/during/before and 10 years after you die, or a bedsheet covered pig who will do whatever you say.