Suppose you have a friend who isn't saved. He won't believe w/o some solid proof. Is a fib all right?
A little fib like "I heard Jesus's voice speak to me once in church, and He told me this was the right church for you,"
or "I once asked for a sign from God, and right then a white dove flew in the window of the church"?
You're pretty sure that once he comes to your church and hears the preacher, he'll be saved, but ... is it ok to stretch the truth a little to get him into church in the first place?
2007-11-09 06:39:47 · 28 answers · asked by Acorn 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Green: You busted me. I've known some fundamentalists who've done exactly that, and I was wondering how many R&Sers would agree with it. Glad to see there aren't too many.
2007-11-09 07:00:06 · update #1
Jon, I think you already know the answer to that question.
Never is it okay to fib about that sort of thing. Its deceptive and undermines faith, especially if this friend should ever find out.
Plus, to me, it leaves a kind of spiritual stain. To have such a statment act as a motivator for another's faith, just doesn't sit well with me.
But still, interesting question :)
regards peace respects
2007-11-09 06:51:20 · answer #1 · answered by Green is my Favorite Color 4 · 5⤊ 0⤋
No. The Lord may give you a word of knowledge just like what you've said and in that case, tell the person (if God tells you to tell the person --- sometimes He just wants you to pray on words of knowledge and take action based on the word of knowledge, but keep your mouth closed to the person that the word of knowledge is regarding). A good rule of thumb for this is the 'say or pray' rule. Ask the Lord what He wants you to do --- does He want you to tell the person or simply pray about it?
If God hasn't told you any such thing, and you tell the person a fib about it, then the person will have even LESS reason to trust God (and you) because it may not come true. So your words have become a stumbling block to that person and possibly hardened his heart even more. Not good.
2007-11-09 06:48:31 · answer #2 · answered by KL 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Uh no. A lie can't attract the truth b/c sooner or later the truth comes out. The best thing to do is to give him The Word and pray that he will allow God to speak to his heart and draw him. God Bless
2007-11-09 06:46:00 · answer #3 · answered by madeam3 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
don't you know? that's how you got into that church. a little fib that jesus will save you.
if you lie to your friend, you are not a friend to him. even if you think you are helping him. if you think it's that important, be up front. tell him" i am worried about you. this is important to me. come to church once and be receptive while you're there. if you don't get a sign from god or a feeling that this is for you, i'll never ask again."
2007-11-09 06:46:15 · answer #4 · answered by eelai000 5 · 2⤊ 3⤋
A fib is a nice word for lie. Think about that....you're finding yourself lying to your friend in order to save his soul.....In what universe can that ever be considered right? What if your friend finds out you lied to him to get him to believe in god? What kind of example does that set?? And you christians wonder why we have no faith in you or your god.
2007-11-09 06:44:01 · answer #5 · answered by lupinesidhe 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
no it very bad God says liers have a spot in the lake of fire you should tell the truth if he belived you in first place that God said all those things then theres still a chance he'll believe.
2007-11-09 07:37:35 · answer #6 · answered by Noah adam 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The entire marketing of religion is founded on lying to other people, lies are the stock in trade of the priest, preacher, pope, and politician, so what's one more lie to achieve your desired result?
My question to you is this: If you have no proof to offer someone else, and find yourself having to lie to support your beliefs, why then do you yourself believe the stuff?
Perhaps you should realize that you've been lied to also...
2007-11-09 06:50:46 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Doesn't your God have tenets about sincere conversion?
Beyond that, your lying is also a sin, and poorly done if that's all you can think of.
Maybe you should just ask or bribe your friend to humor you one Sunday and go to church with you. Don't expect them to change though.
2007-11-09 06:55:11 · answer #8 · answered by nwyvre 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
A Christian lie is a superior kind of lie then? Personally I think it's probably the worst kind. IMHO. Do your friend the courtesy of letting him be in charge of his own soul.
2007-11-09 06:48:27 · answer #9 · answered by hedgewitch18 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
no....the moment we loose truth, we forfeit the anointing of the Holy Spirit in our words....this is why he is called the Spirit of Truth.....he will never move us to lie...and if we do, its us and not him...no one get saved with out the movment of the Holy Spirit..
the difference between seed that fell upon stone [accept it with joy but fall away when trials come:have no root in themselves=false conversion] and seed sown on good ground
2007-11-09 06:48:16 · answer #10 · answered by John[nottheapostle] 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋