An all powerful deity that could do one, SHOULD have been able to do the other right?
Or is there a much simpler explanation? That god is imaginary as he has always been? That the god of the 'wholly babble' only saved the jews in a fable, not in real life. (in fact there is NO evidence whatsoever that the jews ever spent 40 years in the desert, nor did Egyptians die in the red sea as the fairy-tale says. Evidence, as they say, is the key to the truth. And there isn't any. )
And if you say he IS real, then where was he during the 1930's? Napping?
2007-11-09 05:26:24 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
maybe he was off in another galaxy creating more worlds and people to cause trouble with
and yes there is no proof of any mass exodus of jews from egypt or that they were slaves in egypt at all
i guess faith is like that huh?
oh yeah i forgot something you might get the one muslim who says that the muslims are gods chosen people now because the jews rejected mohammed so that might be why
2007-11-09 05:30:08 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
Yes, actually there IS evidence that the Jews were held as slaves in Egypt. A mention of this was found on one of the walls inside an Egyptian tomb in the Valley of the Kings, I believe. You'll have to look it up if you're interested.
As a Jewish person, the answer to your question is one that we have been asking not just through the Holocaust but through all the pogroms and genocide efforts against us throughout history.
After the Holocaust, some Jews lost their belief in God totally. Some Jews changed their names and took on Gentile names and never told their children that they are Jewish, in order to save them from Gentile persecution forever (they hoped).
Some Jews became even more faithful to God as a result of the Holocaust. Some Jews are undecided.
We simply do not know the reason for the Holocaust. We will know, though, one day. Of this we have no doubt.
The real question here though, is why Gentiles insist upon committing such atrocities against the Jews, and why haven't they put a stop to it themselves? What's wrong with them that they desire to wipe out the Jewish people in every decade in every century? Why haven't they stopped each other from doing this?
So where were all the Gentiles during the 1930's? Napping? Let's put the blame where it belongs, eh?
2007-11-09 05:36:17 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋
I have not, nor will I ever argue with anyone about religion. But I will say this to your question. There is a much more simpler explanation and that is.. GOD IS REAL, ALIVE, AND EVERYWHERE! Do you think the sun, moon, stars, sky and earth just came from no where???? Once again I know God is real, alive, and everywhere! I have no doubt that he's alive. You may ask why I feel this way, well I'll tell you why... I know he's alive because he's been in my life from day one! He's helped me out of situations time after time. I've prayed and been delivered from many things, I've ask for others to be free from situations in the name of Jesus and it was done. I will NEVER have doubt that God is real! Matter of fact in 1930 he was in the same place that he's in now, and that is HE'S EVERYWHERE!!!!!! And I thank him!
2007-11-09 05:43:41 · answer #3 · answered by MsBlue2U 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God also allowed the Holocaust of the Jews by NEB. during his reign in Bablyon. Further, the Jews spent many years in slavery and torement before Moses came on behalf of God.
If you are going to use examples, you should not pick and choose.
And actually, there are several bits of evidence. You need to watch your History Channel more. There is plently of archeological and anthropological evidence to support the Exodus. Look at Jewish crypts in the med for example.
2007-11-09 05:34:05 · answer #4 · answered by lundstroms2004 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Are you so sure He didn't.
Btw: it is an accepted Jewish belief, based on the rules of biblical exegesis, that only 1 in 5 (20%) Israelites left Egypt (some say only 1 in 50). That's much worse than the 67% who surivived in the Holocaust or the 40-50% who survived the Roman persecutions between 70-140 CE.
That fact of the matter is the we Jews are still here and the Nazis aren't.
2007-11-09 05:33:22 · answer #5 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 8⤊ 1⤋
Why do you questions God? Do you have any questions for the perpetrators? Do you ever wonder why people have such hatred for people that are not like themselves? How could these atrocities have happened in any civilized culture? What kind of people would stand by and watch the torture of their neighbors without lifting a finger to offer assistance?
Can you imagine how offensive it is to question Jews about their "beliefs" rather than questioning Europeans about their "actions?" I'll admit there are only a few of the perpetrators still living, but why not ask how the culture has changed in order to prevent pogroms, oppression, and genocide? Are you the least bit curious about how a Christian culture could have produced such atrocities throughout the past 2000 years?
No, guess not. It's easier to suggest the Jews brought it on themselves somehow. Blame the Jews for their own genocides, pogroms, etc. Blame the Jews for the terrorism in the Middle East.
Neighborhood Bully by Bob Dylan
Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him.
He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.
He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly.
To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.
Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.
What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say.
He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.
What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully.
.
2007-11-09 06:54:23 · answer #6 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Hello,
There are many times in history where the Jewish people suffered and were not protected. Israel split into Israel and Judea, civil war followed and as time went on they were conquered by the vicious Assyrians, Persians then Greece and taken over by Rome who finished them off eventually and deported them to all parts of the Empire, destruction of the temple included.
Now according to the Prophets of the old testament, while the Jewish people lived up to God's rules and covenant, things would go well but when they started fraternizing with other pagan nations, marrying pagan Queens etc, living the life of Riley, God forgot them and let them get whacked and overun by their enemies. You see much of the stories in the old testament are about prophets ragging on the Jewish people to keep their faith and actions in Yaweh or suffer the consequences.
The story of the Jews and the desert as you surmise comes from a very murky time in history and there is little information on that. However there was Jewish migration into Egypt when th Hyksos people were in power. They were a northern tribe from Iraq or Iran that migrated down and conquered Egypt ruling her for about 200 years. Eventually there was rebellion, the ethinic Egyptians threw them out and thereafter they considered the Jews who had come in and thrived under Hyksos rule, collaborators and treated them as such. By the way, Egypt was known to have deliberately erased the records of bad Pharos or ugly times as they did for that one king who worshiped the Sun as one God so it would not surprise me that the Jews overcoming the Eygptian army would be conveniently erased.
God promises a great life after death but there is nowhere he mentions that either Jews or Christians will have a happy rich life free of suffering and problems while here on earth even if they live his life and teachings to a T. It looks that people like the Nazi regime that killed so many did with impunity for a while but eventually they paid heavily. Similarily in the 30's old Mussolini laughed out to a crowd saying, if God is real let him strike me dead! Again nothing happened but ultimately that great egotist was shot and strung up like a hog in the square.
Cheers,
Michael Kelly
2007-11-09 06:01:34 · answer #7 · answered by Michael Kelly 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
In the Bible it says that God turned His back on the Jews because they rejected His law and turned away from Him. God would allow Israel to be conquered by foreigners and the Jews would be scattered throughout the world, in foreign lands where they would be hated and reviled(europe especially Germany). But God would one day call them His people again. He will gather them from the nations and bring them back into the land He promised them. All these things have happened as they were prophesied. I believe that the Holocaust was allowed to happen as the impetus necessary to drive the Jews back to Israel, there promised land. Everything happens for a reason.
2007-11-09 05:38:07 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Why did God seem to support the Nazi regime? Not only did they have their concentration camps, but they held Leningrad under siege for almost 3 solid years, starving up to 1,000,000 people within their own city within six months, forcing the citizens to eat their pets, wallpaper paste, sawdust bread, and each other. Not only were the Nazi's allowed to cut off the city's food supply, the electricity was cut, and the winter of 1941-42 had record breaking lows, reaching temperatures at -30 degrees Fahrenheit regularly.
2007-11-09 05:32:10 · answer #9 · answered by 雅威的烤面包机 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
The Nazis lost, and within 10 years of the end of the war, Israel was founded. Yes, the Jewish population in Europe was decimated, but not obliterated.
You're so sure God wasn't protecting the Jews? How do you explain their continued presence, and the re-establishment of
their homeland?
The Bible is filled with stories of God allowing the Jews to suffer at the hands of their captors.
2007-11-09 05:30:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 11⤊ 1⤋
See Nebuchadnezzar in the Old Testament. God doesn't always provide protection of the Jews - sometimes he teaches them a lesson.
Why didn't Atheistic sanity save the millions of Soviets killed by Stalin?
2007-11-09 05:31:22 · answer #11 · answered by wigginsray 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋