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We are Taught the God is Omnipresent- Which means he is always present everywhere.

We are also Taught that Hell is the Absence of God

So logically, one of these scenarios must be true:

1. God is Not Omnipresent
2. Hell is NOT the absence of God
3. Hell Does NOT exist

Try to dispute that
Explain it to me without bible quotes

2007-11-09 04:25:50 · 13 answers · asked by AwesomeJoeKnows 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Ok saying the opposite of what I asked isnt an answer
I am asking people to dispute logic

2007-11-09 04:30:35 · update #1

13 answers

There comes a point in theology where logic must break down. The only way to "prove" something is to rationalize it in one way or another. There are many ways in which theists do this. The "faith excuse" "do not judge god" and "that's just being taken out of context" are all examples of this.
You're argument makes perfect sense to me, but to some christians, you may never be able to pound that into their head, because they are simply clouded by concepts which defy basic logic.

2007-11-09 12:10:07 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I've never been taught that Hell is the absence of God. The Bible says that even in the depths of Hell, God is there.

2007-11-09 04:32:14 · answer #2 · answered by J 4 · 0 1

The Bible doesn't really say God is omnipresent - everywhere at the same time... it merely says that he can see everything (EVERYTHING) from his vantage point.

Hell doesn't exist, at least not the burning fiery hell that every1 considers it to be. It is merely the grave (Hebrew "Sheol" Greek "Hades"). At death one ceases to exist. In cases where God deems some1 unfit to be resurrected in the future, he destroys them permanently. The Bible sometimes sybolizes this by saying they are cast into everlasting fire or something similar. This should not be taken literally, because anything thrown into a fire would obviously be consumed immediately; it wouldn't spend eternity burning.

2007-11-09 04:47:41 · answer #3 · answered by DwayneWayne 4 · 1 0

More so than this, I find it extremely odd and fork-tongued that on one hand you are told how much god loves you, yet on the other, you will suffer an eternity of extreme torture and anguish if you happen to piss this god off for some reason.

That, in my humble opinion, is a very good example of an abusive parent/child relationship.

Hell does not exist. And if it does, it exists as a result of the creativity of a crippled mind.

2007-11-09 04:36:10 · answer #4 · answered by gjstoryteller 5 · 2 0

I've never been taught that hell is the absence of God, but that certainly makes sense to me. When Christ was crucified the Father turned His back on Him, and for a time He was separated from the Father, That was Christ's descent into hell. Christ had taken all our sins upon Himself and the Father will not look upon sin. Thus, all three of your assumptions are false.

2007-11-09 04:38:48 · answer #5 · answered by joseph8638 6 · 0 2

we have seen logic "went to hell"

we have seen common sense not do a g-d danged thing to change the minds of the brainwashed, who rely on dogma

Hell is a myth and scare factor for behavioral control

hell is a mistranslation of the grave

technically if someone dies, and goes to the grave, they are away from others

others and the connection or interaction can be seen as "god" where people do nice things and help each other, or "godliness"

2007-11-09 04:29:21 · answer #6 · answered by voice_of_reason 6 · 1 2

2.Hell is NOT the absence of God

God is The Subduer. He who dominates all things, and prevails upon them to do whatever He wills (Dominant).

His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth,(including the Hell).

2007-11-09 04:34:10 · answer #7 · answered by ? 7 · 0 2

By that same logic I can say that since god is infinite, then he is a prisoner of his own creation and cannot move. By definition, infinity cannot move since it is already there.
Not saying you are wrong, just another variant.

2007-11-09 04:33:10 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The thing is God's presence is something that is way out our comprehension. Jesus does not want to loose anybody to hell - it is through him that we get to the Father Almighty. But to deny the Holy Spirit of God is unforgivable.

best wishes

Star

2007-11-09 05:49:49 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Hell (sheol/hades is the grave. If you apart from God and get burned in it, that's called gehenna and the second death. In other words, you cease to exist.

Apart from God you cease to exist because he the life source.

2007-11-09 04:28:08 · answer #10 · answered by Retard 1 · 2 1

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