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I always hear them say that they know god loves them, or that they know the bible is right, or they know that they found jesus, etc. This is ridiculous. I want hard evidence. I know my fiance loves me because she has confronted me and told me so. I know my car works because I drive it to work.

The spiritual explanation is useless. These christians constantly say that they know this and that. Honestly, how do you know? Had God personally gotten in your face and said that he loves you? Has jesus showed up on your doorstep and told you that he died for your sins?

And let's not forget the bible. If it was so authoritive and factual, why isn't non fiction stamped on it's spine? How can you say that it is a factual book? I am being serious. I actually want to know what makes you people so set on believing these things. This is part of the reason why I am an atheist. No one can give me any proof that anything about religion is right.

2007-11-09 03:16:53 · 26 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Look people, I am not asking you to prove your beliefs to me. I am just wondering if that is even possible. You people are so narrow minded.

2007-11-09 07:18:57 · update #1

26 answers

It is not up to Christians to "Prove" the BIBLE.
It is true, and anyone that looks into it and is willing to study will discover this.

2007-11-09 03:27:45 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Christians can't prove their religion because their religion is based on "faith", which is no more than a belief system, and a belief system is an aspect of human consciousness. It lies within the realms of the human mind, not within reality. If you can convince a whole lot of people that a particular belief system is true, you can make it appear as if that belief system is reality, but you cannot change the fact that it is still just a belief system. A person can believe in something so absolutely as to be unshakable, but that still does not make it true. The human mind is an incredibly powerful thing, and if you can get enough people to buy into a belief system, you can even manifest amazing things.

The torah, from which the Old Testament comes, was not written down until after the Hebrews returned from captivity for the last time. Until then, their history had been an oral history, and they adapted a bunch of stories from the histories and mythologies of all of the places they had been held as captives to make up their history, since they really had none of their own. The Council of Nicea in 325 AD, led by Constantine, took all of the written scriptures they could find, decided what they would and would not believe, and burned the rest. So at best, the bible is what is left of all of the available records, bent and tweaked to fit the belief system put in place in Nicea, and embellished with their own agenda. Those who came afterwards took what was left and tried to make sense of it - coming up with some pretty elaborate ideas to explain the inconsistencies.

2007-11-09 03:43:35 · answer #2 · answered by trukrwitch 2 · 1 1

why cant you just let those of us believe, believe? why does anyone have to prove anything to you or anyone else? You cannot prove the non-existence of God any more than I can prove His existence, so what's the point in bickering? Personally I do not care if you believe or not and I have no inclination to argue about it. I look at it this way: Our Constitution states we can worship God however we choose and that means we can choose not to if we so desire. Why does this bother you so much? Lastly I will say this: If the atheists of the world are right then the jokes on all us believers,BUT what if just what if the believers are right? Then who will the joke be on? As far as religion is concerned, I do not consider myself religious. That word can mean so much. One could worship an animal and still be considered religious technically speaking. What I have is faith. Faith- a belief that somewhere out there is something greater than myself, and greater than this earthly realm, something that gives me comfort when all around me are against me, when I am alone and afraid, when I look at all the s*** going on in the world and wonder just how much more I can take, I have my faith to keep me strong. And I sure as hell dont have to see Jesus in the clouds to believe He is there. If the clouds parted and the ground shook and the sky rained down brimstone-I think you would find some way to dismiss the event as weather because you simply lack faith. I cannot see God. I have also never seen Arizona. But I believe both exist.
Here is something to think about: think of a loved one that has died. Did you love that person? if you did, could you prove you loved that person?

2007-11-09 03:40:57 · answer #3 · answered by molly 6 · 1 1

And yet you no doubt believe that a great many things are "true" for which you have not one shred of indisputable evidence. The chances are good that at some point in your life, you've believed that your parents or siblings or a friend has loved you. Empirically, there is no proof of this: love can be explained as hormones, race preservation instincts, or any number of other possible -- yet unverifiable -- concepts.

You probably believe that the Great Pyramids, the Grand Canyon, and the Empire State Building exist, even if you've never seen anything other than a picture of them. But photographs can be faked, and people lie, so unless you've actually seen them with your own eyes, you have no concrete evidence to support your belief.

However, when it comes to religion in general and Christianity in specific, you refuse to accept any proof other than the literal presence of God on your doorstep. Never mind that you believe other things for which you have no empirical evidence -- this whole horrible religion business with its implications of obedience and doing things some way other than your own must be "proven" or else you refuse to accept it.

That's not atheism. . .that's just coming up with a convenient excuse to continue doing and believing what you want, rather than having an open mind and investigating the possibility that God may exist. And with that possibility comes the chance that you *might* just have to yield your way of doing things to Someone Who has radically different ideas about how things are to be than you do.

That kind of excusing one's lack of faith smacks of either cowardice, laziness, or arrogance on the part of those who would rather take the easy path, instead of being willing to examine the hard questions about life and religion.

2007-11-09 03:45:52 · answer #4 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 2 1

It isn't provable. That's why they embrace 'faith'. Faith is nothing more than a hope in something that cannot be proved. What is more interesting, if one actually decides to delve deep into the subject and study the claims in a scholarly fashion, the opposite is proved. Christianity is nothing more than a rehashing of previous Pagan myths built on the coattails of Judaism. Christians think they are studying their religion when they read the text in their bible. This is absolutely incorrect, however most Christians don't have enough courage to actually uncover the pious fraud that makes up their faith. Instead, they shut off their minds and allow superstition and mythology to determine how they live their short lives and then get upset when others don't follow along in this ridiculous charade of non-spiritual fascism.

2007-11-09 03:30:36 · answer #5 · answered by Primary Format Of Display 4 · 1 1

Your question is interesting. You accuse Christianity of being arrogant, while your whole question seems to ooze arrogance. You seem to have no understanding of Academic Disciplines. Religion belongs to the class of academic discipline called the humanities, as differentiated from the sciences. It's methodology includes methods that are primarily analytical, critical, and speculative. Also included in this would be language, philosophy, performing arts, literature, etc. The methodology used for the Natural Sciences is primarily an empirical approach. Most people hold philosophical views that cannot be proven through science. In fact, many scientists hold deeply held views on a myriad of subjects without a shred of evidence. For instance, I talked to a a man I knew was an atheist and a scientist and without bringing up that fact, asked him if he believed there was intelligent life on other planets in the universe. He responded "Absolutely, without a doubt". Since there is absolutely no empirical evidence to support such a position, it is obviously merely his deeply held belief. By the way, Christians refer to their Religious experience as the Christian FAITH, not Science. They don't claim it to be 100% truth, but they may believe it to be so. Just as many who believe in the THEORY of evolution believe it to be 100% true(though it is only accepted by Science as a theory. The tone of your questioning seems to betray not only an arrogance of your own, but an attitude of contentiousness You sound like a child on a playground itching for a fight.

2016-04-03 03:48:25 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It's not - or shouldn't be - a matter of proving. It's a matter of presenting the evidences we all see and sharing our interpretations to try and determine which has the most validity.
There are things we know without 'hard evidence" - the old "prove the mind exists" or Descartes "cogito ero sum" Philosophy 101 arguments. We accept the existance of the mind and matter as true based on the strength of the interpretations of the evidences.
In the same way, I came to accept the Christian interpretation of the evidences because they carry far more weight and are far more consistant than the humanistic/atheistic perspective.

2007-11-09 03:29:29 · answer #7 · answered by Marji 4 · 1 1

It is hard to explain to someone who has no real spiritual experience. Though actual spirituality makes sense. There is much to question in main stream Christianity because King Constantine change the original Teachings of Jesus with his click of scribes. For the original New testament where Jesus originally teaches Karma, Reincarnation, vegetarianism and no one goes to hell eternally and so much more google gosepelofthenazirenes.com The Truth will convince a sincere seeker of Truth, but if one is a demon nothing will convince them. Though I have seen even some demons change and surrender due to understanding the Truth.

2007-11-09 09:32:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I must agree, yet Christians become offended when you tell them that god does not exist. They have no scientific evidence that god exists and that the bible is the work of god. So as I constantly tell the Christians to show me your god, give me evidence that he exists but that would be impossible, because he does not exist. Why cant Christians accept that the bible is a myth, it was written by people so that people in our society would no what is right and wrong.To say that people were inspired by god to write the bible, than they are being brainwashed.

2007-11-09 03:35:32 · answer #9 · answered by taisha c 2 · 2 1

Before they can prove all that, they need to prove that this "god" thing exists. What does it look like? Where does it live? How do they know it exists if they've never seen it before? Why do they call God "he"--does it have a penis and testicles, as well as other human body parts? Does it pee, poop, eat, and sleep like we do?

If someone asks me what a kangaroo looks like, I can describe its color, size, shape, habitat, diet, etc. I can show them pictures and film footage, I can tell them what part of the world it lives in, and if they wanted to, they could go there and see kangaroos for themselves. No Christian--or Hindu, or Muslim, or Jew, or any other religious person--can do that with God. Until they can, any claims they make for this creature are to be considered suspect, if not outright false.

2007-11-09 15:33:48 · answer #10 · answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5 · 0 1

Religion is a personal and harmonious relationship with God. It seems that there are those who are not to experience this. Jesus used parables to hide religion from people He knew were not going to Heaven anyway. If a Christian cannot intellectually explain a spiritual and experiential know-how to someone maybe that is meant to be. I would rather leave a skeptic to himself than argue a matter which is beyond mere logic.

2007-11-09 03:26:56 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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