Mormons: Why do you claim ex-Mormons are lying but you never tell us what they lie about?

Question

And why would all of them tell the same lies? Is there a conspiracy?

http://www.exmormon.org

I'm not an ex-Mormon. I was raised Lutheran and now I'm an atheist.

Answer 1

They do this out of anger, resentment and fear. They are very thoroughly programmed. They don't really worship God...they worship the organisation and the doctrine they've been taught. The Gospel isn't central to their beliefs; what is central is their own history and doctrines. It's very much a "siege" mentality--"us against them".

Back in the day, the missionaries used to have a little box of question and answer cards (I suppose it's on interactive CD by now). They had to memorise the questions and answers...kind of like a chatecism only more so. And if you ever ask them a question and get an answer that really doesn't answer your question, you can know that your particular question wasn't in the box. They're trained to give you the one that sounds the closest.

There is indeed a sort of conspiracy, but I don't blame the members themselves for it. They're only following what they've been programmed to believe.

"The Emperor is not wearing any clothes."

Answer 2

Would not websites with the same old tired and false information be a gathering place for a conspiracy (at least a conspiracy of information)? Such as hmmmmmm.. let's see... how about the website you are promoting.

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Added:

Oregon Flowers -- I gave you a list of mistranslations in the Bible in a previous answer

BTW which bible has the correct translation to you?

King James Version
New International Version
Jehovah's Witness
Joseph Smith Translation
Gideon
Catholic
Latin Vulgate
Wycliffe
Martin Luther
Tyndale
Coverdale
Matthew
Great Bible (Cranmer)
Geneva
Bishops'
Rheims/Douay
English Revised Version
American Standard Version
Moulton
Moffat
Smith-Goodspeed
Knox
Revised Standard Version
Modern Language Bible
Jerusalem Bible
New American Standard Bible
New English Bible
New American Bible
Living Bible
Good News Bible
New King James Version
New Jerusalem Bible
New Revised Standard Version
Revised English Bible
Jefferson Bible
Ignatius Bible
or some 37th version +

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Answer 3

Sometimes the facts need to be set straight. Meat Bot thinks he tells the truth but he lies. And like the anti-christs of the Book of Mormon, he knows it's a lie. And I have pointed those out to you.

If Meat Bot had a wife who I thought was the town whore because I saw her coming out of Fred's house, yet Meat Bot would not believe it because he knows the truth, then I could ask a question such as...Why does Mrs. Meat Bot walk around town shaking her toosh? or Why does Mrs. Meat Bot wear revealing clothes?

I don't want an answer. I just want Meat Bot to know the "truth" about his wife and I want others to know about Meat Bot's wife.

Answer 4

I think my story is unique I have never heard of anyone getting a blessing with a curse in it, like mine and needing to burn it, like I did. NEVER. I could tell you some stories that would make your skin crawl, and you would say I was lying, but I was a mormon at the time and not yet a wiccan...the thing is I had priesthood holders who lived on the north, south, east and west of me, and no one had a clue what was going on as if there priesthood just was not working. It led me to believe that therefore the priesthood was a fraud. How can this stuff be going on and no one knows?! And then a patriarch out of th e blue knows one thing, but blames it on me?! Thats just plain BS.

Answer 5

you can tell the worth of a tree by its fruit. I see young women at the age of 15 getting married to produce children with a man who has other wives and each has several children like a baby machine. they will never know themselves and they think this is a good thing and what God wants. When I was in Alaska I worked at charter North psychiatric hospital and I never saw so many children who were sexually abused and many were very young from 2 to 8 years old. I never knew anything about mormons and had friends growing up who said they were mormons but didn't set them aside as any different from anyone else... I started hearing about these sexual abuse cases and they were time and time again mormon people and their kids. they were strong belivers and professed strong connections with the church and yet they were destroying their own children from the spirit to the mind... now I do not like mormons and I am sorry. I just feel there is something seriously wrong and this is not God. I guess it is like the priests who molest little boys...this was because the church taught that a man should not have a wife...I believe the mormons have proven their law is from man and not God by the fruits they produce that are distorted and sick. I believe to bare false witness is a sin and cruel and I do not want you to think this is a false witness but this may help you understand what some may call lies of the church. I love you and I hope this is not painful to you for me to say this.

Answer 6

human beings have the considered Hell all incorrect and why might the Jews be considered outcasts the two alongside with the Mormons. Christ has promised that lots of them would be redeemed inspite of each and every thing He did set up before everything the covenant with them. He promised King David He does not abandoned the dominion that the Lord promised to envision between the Jews or flow away him and the youngsters of Israel. So why do you think of they are going to be decrease off? Edit: Chris it rather is a sturdy component I take my salvation from Christ and not out of your judgmental and prejudiced approach. confident, i be responsive to the Jews ended up rejecting Christ, inspite of the undeniable fact that i think that God has not forsaken them as actually as you're abandoning them. Edit 2. Gee Chris..... your assumption that Mormons are a cult, not likely to Heaven and so on. you propose on sending me to the devil devoid of understanding my soul, my coronary heart, and how I stand formerly my Maker. confident, I say you're judgmental and prejudiced, it rather is a foul habit and one you do not even understand you have.

Answer 7

I am an ex-LDS (yet still believe in the Book of Mormon) however there are cases where antis lie or twist the truth in their jihad against Mormons. Really if you desire to confound their faith, whether out of charity or of contention, simply use the Book of Mormon itself... it condemns many of their beliefs more strongly than even the Bible does.

I have visited sites like exmormon.org or the Tanner's Utah Lighthouse ministry and they do contain some lies, and some valid criticisms. One of the Tanners even KNEW that the Salamander letters were frauds conjured up by the murderer Mark Hoffman... yet they STILL continued to teach those lies because it helped their agenda in attacking Mormonism.

Answer 8

meat bot....you've already left the church. I'm assuming you're happier that way? I just wonder why you feel like you have to keep asking questions like this. Most of us on here have read those things and choose to still believe anyway. If people in your life are pressuring you, tell them to stop, but don't take it out on people you don't even know.


EDIT: My apologies. I thought I had read in a previous answer of yours that you were an ex-mormon. But now I really do wonder why you care so much. I'm happy with what I believe and where my life is. And if you're happy, that's fine with me. But I have a difficult time believing that someone could be happy when they feel the need to point out what they think everyone else is wrong about.

EDIT: Elfkin, Dancing VT was incorrect on every point she made. She said there are no black mormons. Wrong. She said women can only go to the lowest "layer" of Heaven. Wrong. The thing is, how can I prove to you there are black mormons? I have several in my ward but unless you come and look, you can say and believe whatever you want. I usually don't refute the things I believe are lies because most people who spout those are pretty firm in believing that they're truth. Why waste time arguing with them?

And for the record, I've never said ex-mormon's lie. However, sometimes they do either twist the truth a little, or they never really learned a doctrine in the first place. I think a lot of what they say is misunderstood doctrine. The other thing that ex-mormon's and anti-mormon's love to quote is anything from church leaders. Well, unless it was said under certain conditions (like at general conference) it's not considered doctrine. Mormons are human too and as such have opinions.

Answer 9

I am an ex Mormon, now atheist, and I am not compelled to slander the church just because I don't believe it any more. What is it to any of you what they choose to believe.
People like you and oregon flower, and some of the others are only interested in embarrassing, or at least trying to shame them, for what they believe. Why? It doesn't hurt you. Are you so threatened by their faith, that it scares you?
For the members of the church, they do tend to feel persecuted, by people trying to degrade their church. And it feels like a conspiracy, when other people who don't know, read something about the church, written by other people who don't know, and are telling lies.
If you don't know about the Mormon church, don't answer the question, Hearsay doesn't work in court, it shouldn't work on here either.
Ex Mormons, and non members, mind your own business..
AND MORMONS DON'T PRACTICE POLYGAMY, ANYMORE. WAS THAT LOUD ENOUGH, OR SIMPLE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND? NO POLYGAMY!!!!!!!!!!!
And why don't you know it all, know nothings, learn the difference between 'The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and the Reformed church of Jesus Christ. Especially if you are going to run your mouths about it.
And Meat Bot?? Get a damn life.

Answer 10

It isn't just the Mormons who do this,many fringe religious sects whose doctrines differ from mainstream Christian beliefs do the same.

I guess it's the leaderships way of protecting their interests. If someone researches their particular religion's doctrines, and finds that they are not in harmony with the scriptures, the sect's hierachy wouldn't want any of their other followers to hear it, so they brand the doubters as apostates, liers, etc, and some recommend that they are shunned by those still in the sect.