No it's not discrimination.
The smokers who work for me sneak off and take extra breaks that the non-smokers don't get (that's discrimination against me and the non-smokers). I have to constantly babysit them to ensure they are actually working and then there is the mess they leave wherever they decide to through their trash. I have to pay a non-smoking employee to clean up around the facility for two reasons, 1. I want a clean presentable facility and smokers don't seem to care about that.(sadly, the majority of the trash is smoking related). 2. The smokers I've tried to make clean up, sat around smoking instead of cleaning.
I don't hire smokers if I know they are. Don't get me started on second hand smoke or the disgusting odor that smokers emit when I have to talk to them in my office.They are an irresponsible group of people. Their productivity level is well below the non-smokers.
The conversations I hear them engage in usually revolve around...how they should get paid more because of how valuable they feel they are to the company (while sneaking 1 to 2 hours of extra breaks each day)...how they are so broke they can't afford to pay attention (while smoking three, $4.00 packs of cigs a day and chugging a $5.00 Starbucks)....how mistreated they are because I expect that they should do their jobs...etc., etc.
Smoking is a filthy nasty habit that negatively affects everyone around the smoker. If you're going to smoke, keep it to yourself and quit expecting to get paid to smoke.
2007-11-09 02:26:44
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answered by John in AZ 4
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Smokers are not a protected class, so it is not discrimination under the law.
I've heard of companies with this sort of policy and frankly, if I owned a business, I would probably consider smoking a negative in an applicant. I work with a smoker now, and while she's very discreet about it, I can smell it on her sometimes and it gags me when I do. She also takes numerous breaks during the day to go out and smoke, and since she's the main person who answers the phones it puts and extra burden on me and everyone else relating to the phones, which I don't like because I am very busy.
Smokers also have weakened immune systems, which means more time away due to illness, higher medical costs and higher insurance premiums for the company. To me, there are also negative lifestyle and self-care issues there.
If I were a business owner, I'd want to pick the very best, talented, positive minded and healthy people I possibly could to work with me, and smoking is definately a negative in my book.
2007-11-09 02:03:06
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answered by heart o' gold 7
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Smokers are not a protected 'group'. They can choose not to hire smokers because of the risk of their insurance upping, the fire insurance can get raised, and it may have to deal with the work you do. If you're working with infants, some places will deny smokers. Some farms will as well as tobacco can poison some plants, such as tomatoes.
It's not discrimination because you choose to smoke, as much as some smokers may not feel like they have a choice where addiction is involved. We don't choose what ethnicity to be, which gender to be [except in extreme instances :)] or even what faith we've been raised in.
2007-11-09 02:01:04
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answered by bandana.mama 2
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Alot of companies are doing this because of the extra cost of health care. I think it is stupid, but I guess it isn't illegal because they are doing it and have not had the court make them stop. Diabetics, old people and people with all types of chronic illnesses cost companies more than the average worker, so I don't think that it should be legal, but smokers are always discriminated against and nobody cares. If they tried to do the stuff to gays or blacks or any other group that they do to smokers, they would have their heads removed.
2007-11-09 04:51:56
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answered by Scott B 4
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I guess if it's legal for a city to tell a business that they cannot allow smoking on their grounds, then it's legal for a business not to hire a smoker. What would be best is if people stopped the hypocrisy and just made smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol and caffeine illegal like all the other mind-altering drugs.
2007-11-09 02:05:23
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answered by mommanuke 7
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At my job, they will only hire smokers if they agree to quit. The company will pay for smoking cessation classes however. If you refuse, you don't get hired, and if you start smoking afterwards, you get fired if you don't stop. People that smoke smell disgusting all the time, they deserve to be discriminated against, like you wouldn't hire child molesters to work at a school.
2007-11-09 02:05:40
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answered by Anonymous
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According to the 6 o'clock news, it's different in every state. In Florida it seems to be legal. That mutt on the report, of course, claims he's doing it for their health, when actually, the insurance rates go down. He prolly charges the same and keeps the difference. Never live in a "Right to Work" state.
2007-11-09 02:08:07
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answered by Bob H 7
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I seem to remember seeing a discussion of this somewhere. If the person's job relies on their being up close to people (Dental Assistant) or in an environment where contamination is an issue (Lab Worker) then it might be. Otherwise, no, although a company has a right to prohibit smoking in the office.
2007-11-09 02:00:00
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answered by Anonymous
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It's legal but it does seem intrusive and discriminatory. Some employees of the cigarette maker Phillip Morris aren't allowed to smoke.
John in AZ, sounds like you need to put a foot in someone's azz or make your facility grounds non-smoking. I'm a smoker but I don't expect someone to pick up after me, and I go all day without a smoke.
2007-11-09 02:49:17
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answered by Sandy Sandals 7
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Yes they can discriminate. Discrimination has been made a bad word by idiots. Everyone discriminates all the time. What would an interview be for if the employer was not allowed to discriminate.
2007-11-09 01:59:29
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answered by Bob J 5
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