" " For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." "
-Revelation 22:18,19
So with this scripture in mind please elaborate (not using The Book of Mormon) as to how The Book of Mormon does not contradict this verse?
P.S. This is a King James version for those of you who like I dislike the king James version I compared it to other bibles and found it concurrent and since it's the most widely used version I quoted it.
2007-11-08
18:37:44
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It affects me when I'm woken up early in the morning or when I'm watching house on tv. That's when it becomes my problem.
2007-11-08
18:55:57 ·
update #1
The question wasn't the relevance of the bible it's the explanation of The Book of Mormon.
2007-11-08
18:59:02 ·
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Did I proclaim anything good god! I;m not assaulting the Mormon faith. I'm only asking a legitimate question.
2007-11-08
19:00:52 ·
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Some of you people are so touchy on this subject. Some of you have already branded and insulted me! I never made any conclusions or any statements at all. I quoted a scripture and asked a question. Frankly some have been really matter-of-fact and condescending, and proselytizing which is way more offending then anything I said. Please go patronize someone who has the time to listen to you sermonize about how they know nothing about the bible.
2007-11-10
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The Book of Revelation states the Book of Mormon will come forth. If you deny it, you are taking away from the Revelation and open yourself to the curse.
Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
2007-11-12 02:58:21
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answered by Isolde 7
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I'm sorry that everyone got so defensive zx, I guess they thought you were attacking the Book of Mormon. I don't see you doing that though. You're just asking the question, right?
"1. The book of Revelation was written prior to some of the other biblical books, and prior [to] the Bible being assembled...this verse can only apply to the Book of Revelation, and not the Bible as a whole (some of which was unwritten and none of which was yet assembled together...). While the traditional date of the book of Revelation is A.D. 95 or 96...most scholars now date it as early as A.D. 68 or 69. The Gospel of John is generally dated A.D. 95-100...
2. The New Testament is made up of first the four Gospels and then second the epistles of the apostles. Since the book of Revelation is neither a gospel nor an epistle, it was placed at the end of the canon in its own category. Therefore, John cannot have intended the last few sentences of Revelation to apply to the entire Bible...the Bible would not be completed and canonized for some centuries later.
3. Other scriptures (such as Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:32, and Proverbs 30:6) likewise forbid additions; were the critics' arguments to be self-consistent, they would have to then discard everything in the New Testament and much of the Old, since these verses predate "other scripture" added by God through later prophets.
4. Further evidence that Rev. 22:19 is not referring to the entire bible when it reads "words of the book of this prophecy" is found if one reads Rev. 1:11:
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
It is self evident that the book referred to at the very beginning of Revelation is the same book being referred to at the very end of Revelation. Everything that John saw and heard in between these two statements are the contents of that book.
5. The Bible forbids men to add to the Word of God; it does not forbid that God may, through a prophet, add to the Word of God. If this were not possible, then the Bible could never have come into existence
2007-11-09 04:50:27
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answered by seekingtoad 4
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Seriously, why do people still ask this question? Do you think when revelations was written that the bible actually existed? Do you think there is any way that that particular verse could have applied to a book that wasn't compiled yet? Perhaps, it just applied to the scrolls on which revelations was written on.
BTW, read Deuteronomy 12:32 and explain that to me.
EDIT: I'm guessing you haven't taken the time to read the above mentioned verse. It says basically the same thing that is said in revelations. So should we discount everything after Deuteronomy?
The problem with your question is that anyone with a decent amount of knowledge about the history of how the bible came to be would know that there is no way the verse in Revelations can possibly refer to the whole bible. Most well-studied Christians (regardless of denomination) agree that the particular verse you quoted is ONLY referring to the book of Revelations.
2007-11-09 02:51:08
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answered by gumby 7
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Much of the Bible would contradict this verse if it was taken at face value because historians do not believe this verse was actually the last written, only placed last in the Bible. The Book of Revelations isnt necc in order.
If it wasnt the last written then anything written after this verse in the Bible I guess is false according to you.
Do you have a clue about the history of how the Bible was put together?
Yes I believe the Bible to be the word of God, but a select group of people picked and chose what would be in the Bible and in what order.
Your question is a perfect example of how the Bible can be interpreted in soooo many different ways leading to diff beliefs still being able to be substantiated by the Bible. You cant prove the validity of your interpretations anymore than I can with mine. You dont have any more authority to proclaim who is or isnt correct or who is and isnt a christian anymore than I can.
I have to wonder what kind of grumpy people freak out because a couple of people come knocking at their doors at most one or two times a year and simply ask if they want to hear something. It takes all of 1 minute at the most to say no thank you. I have had JW's come to my door and people selling magazines for causes I have to wonder are actually legit sometimes and it doesnt kill me to have to walk to the door and say no thanks. Your time and energy isnt all that important people. You have everything you could want in life, living in conditions most people would kill for around the world, and you freak out because you have to get off your butts away from the tv for a minute. It is a little sad, imo, if your life is greatly burdened enough to make you grumpy or angry, just because you had to answer the door.
2007-11-09 02:48:35
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answered by cadisneygirl 7
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John said this about his revelation, not about the Bible, since there was no such thing as "The Bible" when he wrote this.
No one is adding to the book of Revelation. In fact, no one is adding to the Bible.
Read the verse (18) carefully. It says that if any MAN shall add to THIS BOOK (Revelation). What about God? Can't God add to the canon of scripture if He wants?
God speaks to His church thru His prophets, Nothing in the Bible says no more prophets, and no more scripture.
2007-11-10 14:20:38
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answered by mormon_4_jesus 7
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The Bible was canonized hundreds of years after that was written. John was referring to the words that JOHN was writing. "This Book" is the book of revelations, and not the Bible. We can't and shouldn't add to his words, change his words, or modify his words. They are his and not ours. Additionally, Revelations wasn't the last book to be written chronologically. Those who canonized the Bible, just felt that it went best as the last book.
Moses said nearly the identical thing in Deuteronomy 12:32. If you interpret them both as many christians interpret revelations, it would mean that all books after Deuteronomy were false.
2007-11-10 15:25:52
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answered by Ender 6
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That scripture is a warning about all those many "translations" of the bible. It is reworded so many times and much is lost because of that. It is very smart to ask Mormons for help on this, since we know more about the bible than any other religion.
2007-11-09 08:01:38
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answered by plastik punk -Bottom Contributor 6
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I don't think the Mormons added to the Book of Revelations my friend.
2007-11-09 10:26:45
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answered by Anonymous
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Mormonism is a false religion !!! ....There are hundreds of discrepancies and contradictions.....Start with the most major deadly flaw- the Mormon "Jesus" The Mormons believe that Jesus was the "spirit brother" of Lucifer (Satan)...That would make Jesus a created being, which is Soooo totally wrong!!!
Jesus(the real one) is NOT a created being, He is the Eternal Son of God, the second "person" of the Trinity...Jesus(the real one) is the Incarnate God, and he is 100% God and 100% Man.......There are many things in the book of Mormon
that contradict the Bible, so without any doubt one of them is
Totally wrong !!! And the Bible IS proven correct, time and time again !! If you have the wrong Jesus, you will be wrong for all eternity !!! Here is the word of God on those that have a different gospel, ...like the Mormons have.........
Galatians 1:6-9.......
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
7. which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed
2007-11-09 03:46:19
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answered by ? 5
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I must say this five times a day. What does it matter to you, what someone else believes?? How does it change, or effect your life??
Will you die because somebody believes something you don't?
Why don't you people simply live your own religions, and leave others, to practice theirs?
2007-11-09 02:52:14
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answered by cassandra 3
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