Christians What does this verse mean to you? How do you interpret it?

Question

"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 8:38-39).

Charles Stanley uses this verse to say that we cannot loose our salvation. He says that those who walk away from God or who continue in their sinful lifestyle were never genuinely saved in the first place.
Here are a few more verses that he says describes OSAS.
Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away. (d) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be "un-indwelt" and detached from the Body of Christ.

Answer 1

To me it means the only thing that can separate us from God is us. Nothing else can do it. The only way to lose your salvation is to willingly give it up.

Answer 2

I would agree. Rom 8:38-39 is an airtight contract from God to us.
The term "baptizo' salvation being described as being baptized into the keeping of the Holy Spirit, is the same term in the Greek used for ...say...baptizing a white clothe in purple die. You cannot remove the purple once the material has been dyed.
So the sovereign work of Christ, bought at an inestimable price of his death
God has decreeded and will not change.
Satan would like to destroy but cannot
but the human will can undo God will,
The human will is stronger than God grace
The human will will tell God is blood was not costly enough,
there is a sin that God's life blood could not pay for.

Sounds ridiculous when put that way

So now I ask a controversial question...
I Cor 5:5
5I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

His spirit is saved but his flesh is destroyed. That would indicate someone died in sin but his spirit was save.
Yours in Christ our Lord

Answer 3

It speaks to the abounding Grace of God. Once we accept what Jesus did on the cross and confess that we ARE a sinner we have stated our need and that need never goes away. This is a great tool to keep believers humble. Look at the Disciples and Moses, they all fell to the temptation of who was the greater disciple or that Moses said to the Israelites," Do I have to perform another miracle before you will believe?". This statement took away Mose's permission from God to take His people into the promised land. God performed all the miracles and we can not lose sight of that. These men used by God in the bible ,lost some extra privileges but not their salvation. It is sealed with all that believe in Jesus and what He did on the cross and not by being without sin.

Man is forgiven of past, present and even future sins. The bible also says that a believer is not subject to the law anymore. This does not give us a right to continue to sin purposely but to fight a good fight and we will fall but we can not lose our salvation if we fall throughout our life.

He is an amazing God.

Answer 4

We do not know everything, some try to, but we don't, I was told you couldn't have bad things such as demons in you, if you were saved, but if You know Jesus Christ went to the cross, and absolutely 100 percent believe this, and repented and turned from your sins, you should be saved, then is it possible to shut God out for a while, and come back, some ask this, I know our salvation cannot be taken away,Once we have it we are save, we should produce good fruit, and turn from sin completely, but what about the ones that say we are not perfect yet, and we still fall short, when are we completely sinless, or are we, we don't have that perfected body yet, I know our salvation cannot be taken away, When we say that prayer we have to be absolutely sure we are giving our life to The Lord and not just living for ourselves anymore, and then I believe we will have The Holy Spirit in us, and I do not believe The Holy Spirit ever leaves, but how far is too far.

Answer 5

Yes indeed! We CANNOT lose our salvation, those that think they can need to realize that those who fall away without conviction, without God drawing them back were never saved to begin with. What does Ephesians 1 say about our salvation in Christ? That we are sealed with the Spirit the time we believed- What does Jesus say about "The sheep" we are God's sheep and no one can snatch us out of His hand.
2 Corinthians 1 also speaks about those who are saved are sealed with the Holy Spirit. We cannot lose our salvation in Jesus Christ if we are truly saved in Him. There is such thing as false conversion---I like to look at the parable of the sower in Luke when it comes to this. Good example.

Answer 6

Romans 8:38-39 is properly stated "For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature shall be able to seperate me from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord" and simply means that nothing can seperate you from God's love once you have recieved the gift of eternal life through the shed blood of Christ. Now if the gift we recieve (according to Romans 6:23 among other verses" is eternal life... that leads one to ask... how long is eternity? and even if you coul lose it, how could you ever gain it in the first place? It is neither gained nor lost, simply given and recieved.

Answer 7

What many forget, is that God knows everything. Before we were born, He new whether we'd repent, or deny His existence until the moment of His return. Thus, when one has been given the Gift of Salvation, they are always saved. For it to be otherwise, would mean the Lord can make error or misjudgment...which is impossible.

This current earth, this time period, is for two reasons...an opportunity for true Believers to become more Christlike and grow closer to God, and an opportunity for unbelievers to see, that even when hearing the word of God, they rejected Him and/or denied His existence.

When the Lord returns, no one will be able to say, "if only I had heard the truth" I would have changed. With today's technology and an increasing number of missionaries who travel abroad, the Good News is being spread extremely fast. This is not a game, dress rehersal, or fairy tale. The Lord is real...and His inspired Word is Truth. :)

Answer 8

We always need to take things in their context. Romans 8:31-39 Paul closes his teaching about the believer's security in Christ with a crescendo of questions and answers for the concerns his readers might still have. The result is an almost poetic expression of praise for God's grace in bringing salvation to completion for all who are chosen and believe .... a hymn of security.

Answer 9

Although tribulation is unpleasant, the Christian can exult while enduring it, since he knows that faithfulness is approved by God and will ultimately lead to the realization of his grand hope. (Ro 5:3-5; 12:12) The tribulation itself is but momentary and light in comparison with the everlasting glory to be received for remaining faithful. (2Co 4:17, 18) The Christian can also rest assured that God’s loyal love will never waver, whatever tribulation may come upon the faithful believer, hence Ro 8:35-39.

Answer 10

Ro 8:38
For I am persuaded. No hostile power of the universe can lead us away, is the apostle's holy confidence.
Death nor life. These adversaries seem to advance in pairs. Death is named first, because death by martyrdom threatens. The next pair is

angels, and principalities and powers. "The angels" are good angels, while malignant angels are meant by the other terms.

Nor things present, nor the things to come. The present or the future.

Ro 8:39
The love of God--in Christ Jesus our Lord; "the love of God" here, like "the love of Christ," verse Ro 8:35, is his love towards us, which, however, always includes love on our part towards him.

Answer 11

The love of GOD is this. We have a free will to choose as we wish. We are not mindless robots. GOD seeks willing company that willingly loves him in return. Jesus went to the cross so we can have that choice restored. How awesome is that? If you want to know about your salvation check in with the Holy Spirit and ask GOD. If you want to see a silly debate then post it on R&S.

Hope that helps†