Why do we continously hear that illegals aren't taking jobs from Americans?

Question

Yet, we also see many articles where illegals have jobs in which an American could have been working in places that chose to hire illegals instead.

For instance:

Federal and local law enforcement agents raided several warehouses Wednesday at O'Hare International Airport and arrested 24 workers who were allegedly in the country illegally and using phony security badges for jobs on the tarmac, cargo areas and other restricted zones.

Federal immigration authorities arrested nine people linked to IFCO Systems and rounded up more than 1,000 illegal immigrants in multistate raids, federal law enforcement officials said.

250 people arrested in an October 23 federal immigration crackdown at 60 Wal-Mart stores in 21 states.

Nearly 40 illegal immigrants hired by contractors working on three military bases in Georgia, Virginia and Nevada were arrested over the last three days by ICE.

Federal authorities arrested 55 illegal immigrants yesterday at a construction site on Dulles

Answer 1

Everybody who gets a job, takes it away from someone else (unless it is a job which very few people want like migrant farm worker, or janitor). Now people blame Mexicans. People used to blame Blacks, Jews, Irish, Chinese, and pretty much everyone else. Some people find it very easy to look for scapegoats.

Answer 2

Your question strikes at the heart of the debate. Do illegals take jobs that Americans won't? The easy answer is yes, but peel back the skin and you will see carpenters, electricians, plumbers and more who are; working illegal immigrants. It's similar to right to work states. An illegal immigrant that is familiar with capentry can go to a construction site and apply for a job, when asked on application or by a hiring super what he expects to be paid; he can come up with a living wage for himself that is much lower than 40 bucks an hour the white anglo citizen standing on the sidewalk is waiting to be offered. Really isn't much of a decision for the construction super, he can get the work done at less than half the labor rate, look like a hero to his company garnering favor for future jobs on his behalf.... And, what did he do wrong? Simply forgot to check for a valid social and ID. Not such a bad thing for a guy (job super) trying to make a living, who would consider him a criminal for just doing the best job he could do?

So the subject is not just black and white, as I only gave one simple example of illegals being hired. I'm sure there are many more and have a lot more difficulty in them.

The simple answer that I keep coming up with is this: Let's just ask local and federal cops to do their job. Bust employers that hire illegals and put them in jail. I bet a no tolerance policy would convince them to follow rule of law with respect to hiring illegal immigrants.

Answer 3

The people reporting these stories or saying that never had to work at walgreens, for a cleaning service, on a roof.

And to all the people claiming they are taking jobs no one wants, thats bullpoop. Citizens would most definately work those jobs, if the employers would pay enough to live off of after taxes, social security, medicare, etc are taken out. But the illegals dont have to worry about "petty" things like that, rent or insurance, now do they.

And if there werent upwards of 30 million illegals in the country, no one would be taking jobs from anyone, at least not until Bush ships the ones left overseas.

Plus, if the illegals werent here, tax paying citizens could get on assistance programs and see a doctor or afford to have children, seeing as how theyve been charged their entire working lives to have those services available. If i'd knwon Id been busting @ss my whole life to support an entire ungrateful dredge of people, i wouldve started pumping welfare while i still had the option. Now, im white, i dont have a kid, i make more than 6oo a month (by working 70 hr weeks making barely over min. wage, and i have a field, a trade, to all you idiots thinking any of this stops w/ hard labor jobs) and i speak english so i dont qualify.


And sorry catafall, the illegals took my spot in school also, as they can now get private funding while my credit (linked thru my social, that they dont have to worry about, isnt that a hoot) keeps me from qualifying for grants. Although, i work in computers, so dont get high and mighty assuming only smart people get degrees. Some people go to college for years and years and still come out the biggest idiots i know. Like you, for example, with your too-thick-to see-out -of sheltered bubble. Did mommy and daddy buy that car or did you? Douche.

Answer 4

I'm not justifying this as an excuse, but there are probably many people, like me, who aren't really at risk for losing their jobs to an illegal immigrant. I have never felt the blow because there aren't a lot of illegal immigrants trying to get accounting positions. Most of my family members are white collar professionals so they never were at risk of losing their job to people in the country illegally. But when I think about many manual labor jobs that I would never do (though they are extremely important to society), I can totally see where illegal immigrants would take jobs from citizens.

Answer 5

The Fact is that Illegals are lowering the wages that employers will pay for many jobs--particularly in construction, agriculture, meat packing, and service industries. They will take lower wages than an American would and by doing so are taking a job from an American. There are NO jobs that Americans will not do; merely slave/serf level wages that we will not accept. And illegals allow the employer to not have to cough up the wages that Americans expect for a given job; thus it can be said that they take jobs form Americans.

Answer 6

I think Eyes whatever his name put it best, American would be willing to do many jobs that Illegals are doing, but not for the stated wage. People are hiring illegals only because of money, not because they think they work harder or many of the other excuses. If you were to give an employer a Legal or illegal to work for the same wage 10 out of 10 times the employer would take the legal because of the minimal risks involved.

Answer 7

Employers are required with the aid of regulation to envision the best to be in this u . s . till now hiring potential workers. If this regulation have been right enforced, there'd be no undertaking. as a substitute, politicians and different effective people, and others, are not often caught hiring illegals. submit to in suggestions while WalMart replaced into caught? the inspiration of the undertaking is failure to right enforce the regulation.

Answer 8

because when someone says "illegal immigrants don't take jobs away from americans", the vibration of their vocal chords creates compression waves in the air that travel outward. if these compression waves come in contact with your ears, they vibrate your eardrums, and a signal is sent to your brain that converts the vibration into what you percieve as sound.

Answer 9

Oh man! This is the reason why you go to school and get a degree!! So that you don't have to complain about immigrants stealing your construction jobs.

Answer 10

This is what the liberal press wants Americans to believe! Most of us know differently but we had to look for honest reports on these issues! Don't forget to express your dissatisfaction in our countries policies at the next election!

Answer 11

Samantha, no one is scapegoating Mexicans for anything. If you honestly don't find it objectionable that 20+million Mexicans now illegally reside within the US, with millions more coming every year, then you have even less respect for your country than Mexicans do.