Sally Fields is Americas sweetheart. Should Jane Fonda be considered an American Hero?

Question

I say she saved lives.

Republicans spit on her, and slandered Jane Fonda - who along with 50,000 Vietnam Vets against the war, including “Born on the Fourth of July” Ron Kovic, who was spit on, by a mob of Republicans at the 1972 Republican National Convention in FL… I think Jane Fonda and the 50,000 Vietnam Vets against the war, who she served, should be celebrated as American Heroes.

(Hanoi Hilton story is utter BS)

Deloris – Vietnam Vets who knew her loved her for helping them. They don’t love you.

LINK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv7-ZdkZuFg

Mamab - I think you’re as ignorant as a child’s rumor. Actually I know you are.

Judy_Sweet_Funny – you should take that out on your daughter…

“Hot Pink,,,,,,,on my beautiful 21 year old daughter, with the most beautiful figure I ever seen,,,,,,no lie...........she is so beautiful, the exact opposite of me...”

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgP6CSP9v_EcQg58VIgUHeDsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071107202002AAiplOK&show=7#profile-info-ASY9aUX7aa

Judy_Sweet – You’re sweet like Jane Fonda.

Deloris – My brothers are in Kuwait and Iraq.

Wayne C – you are a liar, and you know you are. That or you’re a confused mental case who makes up stories.

Answer 1

This is Jane Fonda. During my two week visit in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I've had the opportunity to visit a great many places and speak to a large number of people from all walks of life- workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the women's union, writers.

I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well.

In the shadow of the Temple of Literature I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller's play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me- the fact that artists here are translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing their country.

I cherish the memory of the blushing militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam- these women, who are so gentle and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are bombing their city, become such good fighters.

I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of civilian targets- schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the dike system.

As I left the United States two weeks ago, Nixon was again telling the American people that he was winding down the war, but in the rubble- strewn streets of Nam Dinh, his words echoed with sinister (words indistinct) of a true killer. And like the young Vietnamese woman I held in my arms clinging to me tightly- and I pressed my cheek against hers- I thought, this is a war against Vietnam perhaps, but the tragedy is America's.

One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow of a doubt since I've been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to break the spirit of these people; he'll never be able to turn Vietnam, north and south, into a neo- colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist. I've spoken to many peasants who talked about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy, inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives.

But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created- being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools- the children learning, literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives.

And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders- and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism- I don't think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh.




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THE 1960s...

"It was a decade of illusion, in which eager spirits were led by continued prosperity to believe and propagate many Utopian notions: that poverty could be abolished, cruelty and violence legislated out of existance, every freedom infinitely extended and voraciously enjoyed, and some kind of democratic and egalitarian paradise established on earth. The vast and unconsidered expansion of higher education was both a product and accelerator of these illusory forces, pouring on to the scene countless armies of your graduates, who shared these fantastic hopes and set about elbowing aside the obscurantist and authoritarian elders who alone, it was argued, prevented their realization."

Paul Johnson

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JANE FONDA's RADIO HANOI BROADCAST


Hotel Especen; Hanoi-Vietnam :: 7 APR 95, 1911 hours:

The following public domain information is a transcript from the US Congress House Committee on Internal Security, Travel to Hostile Areas, HR 16742, 19-25 September, 1972, page 7671.

[Radio Hanoi attributes talk on DRV visit to Jane Fonda; from Hanoi in English to American servicemen involved in the Indochina War, 1 PM GMT, 22 August 1972

Text: Here's Jane Fonda telling her impressions at the end of her visit to the Democratic Republic of Vietnam;
(follows recorded female voice with American accent);]



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This is Jane Fonda. During my two week visit in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I've had the opportunity to visit a great many places and speak to a large number of people from all walks of life--workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the women's union, writers.
I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well.

In the shadow of the Temple of Literature I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller's play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me--the fact that artists here are translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing their country.

I cherish the memory of the blushing militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam--these women, who are so gentle and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are bombing their city, become such good fighters.

I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of civilian targets-schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the dike system.

As I left the United States two weeks ago, Nixon was again telling the American people that he was winding down the war, but in the rubble-strewn streets of Nam Dinh, his words echoed with sinister (words indistinct) of a true killer. And like the young Vietnamese woman I held in my arms clinging to me tightly--and I pressed my cheek against hers--I thought, this is a war against Vietnam perhaps, but the tragedy is America's.

One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow of a doubt since I've been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to break the spirit of these people; he'll never be able to turn Vietnam, north and south, into a neo-colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist.

I've spoken to many peasants who talked about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy, inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives.

But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created--being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools--the children learning, literacy--illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives.

And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders--and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism--I don't think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh.


STUPIDITY KNOWS NO BOUNDS!! EVEN 30 YEAR LATER!

Answer 2

Wayne C mentioned the bumper sticker:

I will forgive Jane Fonda
When the Jews forgive Hitler

Well I am a vet who is Jewish. I will never forgive Hitler. Hanoi Jane is a disgrace to the American Service Man and to the American Public. During her tour of Hanoi, she visited the Hanoi Hilton. The prisoners there risked everything to give her a list of all the names of the prisoners, so the people back home would know they were still alive. She smiled sweetly and then handed the list to the commander of the Hanoi Hilton. How do I know this? My best friend Pete, was a fellow B52 officer. He was shot down and spent time in the prison. He was there with John McCane. He was one of those tortured after Jane left.

My fellow American Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Air Force Veterans were the ones spit on. We were the ones called baby killers. We did not run away from the country to avoid fighting the war. Not one of us wanted to be there, but everyone of us did their job. I am both an Air Force Veteran and an Air Force Brat. I went to an American High School in Naples Italy. There were 76 graduates in my senior class. 40 of them were boys. 25 have their names enscribed on the Vietnam Memorial Wall. I have been to Washington DC several times since the Wall was erected. I have yet to see it. Beside those 25 classmates, I knew about 100 others who paid the ultimate sacrafice for our country, for me, and for you.

Ron Kovic, is a highly decorated, terribly wounded Vietnam veteran. He fought for our country. He has earned the right to say how he feels about the war and anything else he wants to. Hanoi Jane, I understand makes movies, you know I have never seen one.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

I am a Republican. Have been spit on, more than once. Have been assaulted while "baby killer" was being screamed at me. Was asked twice in job interviews, by women, "So how many babies did you kill?" and one jackass asked what it felt like to squeeze the trigger on a VC.

We shall overlook the fact that the entire time I was in the Army there were NO combat operations other than some border incidents in Germany and Korea. Doing what I did would not likely be close to any shooting anyway.

I have never seen a "I love Jane Fonda" bumper sticker. I do see a guy on occasion that has one that reads "I will forgive Jane Fonda, When the Jews forgive Hitler"

2.6 millions guys and gals set foot in VietNam during the war. The remains of approx 2200 are still there.

You are part of a 1.9% minority.

SSG US Army 73-82

Answer 5

The first part of your user's name says it all.

Ron Kovic and 50,000 vets plus anyone else you can dredge up indirectly aided and lent support to the people killing Americans in Viet Nam. You left out all the spoiled, self-centered brats that ran off to Canada and Sweden, not in protest of the war in Viet Nam but simply because they didn't have the cajones to do something that was difficult and dirty.

And what's this crapola about the Hanoi Hilton "story" being BS? You been sniffing glue again, or just got some bad drugs. The TRUTH is you wouldn't have lasted five minutes as a prisoner of the VC or N Vietnamese. I know because I was a "guest" of the VC for six months and on my way north when by a very lucky break I escaped.

Any way you want to slice it, pal, or whatever spin you give it, those people you admire so much committed TREASON!

Oh, by the way...you also forgot to mention that Hanoi Jane admitted a couple of years ago that what she did was wrong.

Answer 6

American Hero is something that jane Fonda is not. She knew what she was doing. There can't be anyone of her upbringing who is that ditsy. She went to Vietnam and did the things, said the thngs she said and has not shown any remorse for those deeds. For you to put the question forward, if she should be a hero speaks volumes of your intellect, your patriotism or lack of and your foolishness.

American hero is someone who, when given that title, will brush aside that title, instead showing humility in the face of such attention. But Jane Fonda is only a fools hero, get it, a FOOLS HERO AND ONLY A FOOL WOULD PLACE such a question here!!

Answer 7

Hanoi Jane is a disgrace to the US. The only reason she wasn't tried and convicted for treason was that the Vietnam War wasn't a "declared" war. You know that, yet you refuse to believe it.

Post your insult now, you will feel better.

Answer 8

I don't agree with either "ACTRESS" having these titles.
The hero's are the ones that died, the one that lived without thier loved ones, the parents that lost thier children, the children that lost thier parents. It is obsered that anyone would consider a publicity hungry actress on an ego trip be called a Hero!
As for Sally Field, I can name other that were sweethearts of America!
Sandra Dee
Elizabeth Taylor
Marilyn Monroe
The list could go on and on!

Answer 9

My dad was a Vietnam vet.
I just have to post here out of respect to his memory.
He didn't like her, he despised her.
He never called her Hanoi Jane but I do.
Hock Spit.

I deleted my edit to your comment to me.
It was childish and I apologize.

Jane isn't a war vet. She's a thorn in the side of many American soldiers who were over in Vietnam. I'm sure they feel quite betrayed by our willingness to forget or pad what she did.
She betrayed them. She betrayed her country.
Forget what political party she was being a yellow belly for. Men died over there. Lives were ruined. She hopped on a plane and went home and waited at the airport with a mouth full of spit. She gets no sympathy from me.
We're Americans, united we stand divided we fall.



D

Answer 10

Jane Fonda is not a hero. Talk to Vietnam vet they will tell you that whole story and trust me...it's not bs.

Answer 11

Hero my ***. She's lucky she wasn't arrested for treason.

In which branch of the military did you serve? The Viet Cong or the North Vietnamese Regular army?