the Father??
The JWs agree that Jesus is a "Mighty God", as Isaiah 9:6 indicates, but they say he is not God Almighty like Jehovah is. Does the fact that Jesus is referred to as a " Mighty God" ???indicate he is lesser God than the Father ( Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1989,413-414 )
2007-11-07 13:18:59 · 24 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jesus is called THE Mighty God.
6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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2007-11-08 03:36:58 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Isa 9:6 states
6 For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
According to Trinitarians, Jesus is the Almighty God because Isa 9:6 states that Jesus is the Mighty God. You’ll be fooled by the Trinitarians if you are not careful in what you read.
Please notice that in Isa 9:6 it is in FUTURE tense “WILL come”. So obviously, at the time Isa 9:6 was written, Jesus doesn’t have the title “Mighty God”. Isa 9:6 is a future prophecy, it hasn’t happened yet at that time it was written. So the title the Mighty God for Jesus has a beginning.
If Jesus has those titles with no beginning, then Trinitarians have a big problem.
Jesus is called the Eternal Father in Isa 9:6. Now that is a big conflict with the Trinitarian doctrine, because according that doctrine, the Son IS NOT the Father.
No wonder Trinitarians are confused.
2007-11-08 02:24:13 · answer #2 · answered by trustdell1 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Come on already, if you continue Isaiah 9:6 it next call Jesus "Everlasting Father." Let me be silly and ask, does that mean that Jesus is the Everlasting Father, while Jehovah is just a temporary one? Read the whole scripture, ....please.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Also the term "The Mighty One, God" is used in the following verses. Are they talking about Jesus also?
Joshua 22:22
"The Mighty One, God, the LORD! The Mighty One, God, the LORD! He knows! And let Israel know! If this has been in rebellion or disobedience to the LORD, do not spare us this day.
Psalm 50:1
The Mighty One, God, the LORD, speaks and summons the earth from the rising of the sun to the place where it sets.
2007-11-07 13:34:40 · answer #3 · answered by ignoramus_the_great 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, not in itself.
However, Isaiah 9:6 also refers to Jesus as "a son" and as "Prince of Peace" (even referring to Jesus' "princely rule"). The bible never refers to Almighty Jehovah (God the Father) as a prince, but as a "king" or "majesty", and the bible indicates that Jehovah's Sovereignty is Supreme (while the kingship of Jesus is subject to Jehovah).
(Isaiah 9:6) For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called ...Prince of Peace.
(Hebrews 1:2-3) [God] has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. ...[The Son] sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places.
(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
2007-11-07 23:42:35 · answer #4 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Jesus IS God (The Father), as He is The Holy Spirit. They are one (The Trinity). Therefore it is unreasonable to say He is lesser.
When Jesus came down to earth, God was sending the human form of Himself to be with us to teach us and change the old ways. And when He went back up into heaven, He sent The Holy Spirit (the spirit form of Himself) to remain with us until He came back.
I probably just told you a bunch of stuff you already know, but that is the reasoning behind saying that Jesus is not less than God because He IS God.
2007-11-07 13:27:51 · answer #5 · answered by Sunny11 1 · 2⤊ 1⤋
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, [a] Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
NO he is saying that the child that will be born is a might god. Telling us that he is the mighty god!
2007-11-07 13:23:41 · answer #6 · answered by only14life 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Notice the word "THE". The implies singularity, as in ONE.
2007-11-07 13:34:09 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
if you read the scripture very good jesus is god its not that god is above him or he is above god he is both he is god i want you to study these scriptures for me ok maybe this will help you understand Deut 4: 35 and 39 1 Samuel 2:2 1 Kings 8:60 and Psalms 86:10 the lord jesus christ is god himself the name jesus means jehova saves .
2007-11-07 13:30:15 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Well thanks for your Question :)
A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):
(i) "My Father is greater than I."
[The Bible, John 14:28]
(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]
(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]
(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
[The Bible, Luke 11:20]
(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]
I hope this helps us both to understand our faith more and more :)
2007-11-07 13:37:36 · answer #9 · answered by abouterachess 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are all one being (person).
Jesus is God's "word" that came out of God's mouth and was made flesh so that God could live among men on this earth.
The Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost) is the spirit living inside God. God left His spirit behind to lead and guide us on this earth.
When we pray, the Holy Spirit helps us to pray.
2007-11-07 13:36:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋