Are Catholic bashers going to hell?

Question

This is what Jesus said about those who reject and persecute the Church he founded.

“He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.” – Luke 10,16 (KJV)

Jesus also gave the Church the authority to forgive and retain sins. So if the Church condemns your blasphemy and heresy, (retains your sin) aren’t you hell-bound?

“Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” – Matthew 18,18 (KJV)

I am not judging you, but shouldn’t you rethink your stance against the Catholic Church and other Christian churches?

The Church Fathers also affirmed this doctrine.

Ignatius of Antioch
"Be not deceived, my brethren: If anyone follows a maker of schism [i.e., is a schismatic], he does not inherit the kingdom of God; if anyone walks in strange doctrine [i.e., is a heretic], he has no part in the passion [of Christ]. Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: For there is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup in the union of his blood; one altar, as there is one bishop, with the presbytery and my fellow servants, the deacons" (Letter to the Philadelphians 3:3–4:1 [A.D. 110]).

Uz, Why don't you post your comments so we can answer them? Anything can be attacked using fallacy. Proving your allegation is another matter.

Pastor Art
I used the King James Bible so that you cannot question my source. And by the way the Catholic Church has never said that about the KJV. In fact, scborromeo.org uses the translation for the same reasons I do.

The Church Jesus founded was both physical and spiritual. Since the Christian Church was to exist historically and be like a city set on a mountain for all to see (Matt. 5:14), it had to be visible and easily identifiable. A church that exists only in the hearts of believers is not visible and is more like the candle hidden under the bushel basket (Matt. 5:15). But any visible church would necessarily be an institutional church that would need an earthly head. It would need an authority to which Christians could turn for the final resolution of doctrinal and disciplinary disputes. Christ appointed Peter and his successors to that position.

To all those who called the Church dirty names, why don't you post your comments? We welcome them because people will know who is on the side of truth.

Only Baby
You should write a book about your hypothesis.

Isaiah
Where does your authority to interpret Sacred Scripture come from? Are you an exegete?

Yoyo Mama
Read the passage in its entirety. Jesus was talking to his disciples and followers which became the CHURCH after his commissioning and ascension.

Answer 1

Well, they obviously won't be happy in heaven if it is full of those they bashed. No other place to go, I'm afraid. It just won't work out. Pity. I was planning on a great big tug-of-war at the end of days, you know, with the Abyss between us, and whoever is on the edge gets dunked in.

Answer 2

I noticed you used the word exegete. The correct word to describe what you have done is isogesis, i.e. reading into the text what is not there. Jesus did not say anything about the church in this passage. You are engaging in an anachronistic interpretation by reading back into the text the church's unprovable claim of unbroken apostolic succession, and making an assumption the text does not imply, that everything Jesus said to his direct disciples applies to the bureaucratic structure of the RCC and its numerous extra-biblical pronouncements. The disciples in the presence of Jesus at this saying (if it is not a complete fiction from the start) are not equivalent to the Roman Catholic Church of today except in the fevered minds of the eunuchs and pederasts who preside over it, and those unfortunate enough to have been indoctrinated by them..

Answer 3

Well, fortunately for the bashers, since the Church founded by Christ is not the schismatic heresy led by Rome but is, rather, the Orthodox Church, they haven't so much to worry about.

Now, should Rome ever renounce her heresies and abandon her schism from the true Church and return to Orthodoxy, that would be a different matter.

But, since Catholicism is currently a schism and heresy, it's not such an issue.

Answer 4

Are you a JW Witness pretending to be Catholic? I heard the 2 churches are arch enemies? But of course the Holy Bible says to "Love your enemies".

Answer 5

My dear Art, would you care to back up that "KJV curse" with some sort of documentation? My parish priest who is conducting our weekly Bible studies would be most interested to know this, I'm sure, since he allows people to bring the KJV or whatever translation they wish to our classes.

Answer 6

those I actually ask your self approximately are people who openly declare that they have got a diverse baptism than the Catholic Church. I visited a Baptist church ealier this twelve months, and a few human beings have been baptized on the tip of the service. i found it rather hectic that when a former Catholic substitute into rebaptized, she verbally and explicitly renounced her previous baptism. i substitute into tempted to stand up real there and ask, if she substitute into renouncing the baptism of the historic Christian faith, then what baptism substitute into she now being baptized with?

Answer 7

Dude, Jesus was not the founder of the Catholic church. He didn't even have a church. He was Jewish and Catholics are not Jews. Jews are God's chosen people and Jesus taught in the Jewish synagogues not Catholic churches. He was even referred to as a rabbi at one point in the bible. When he was crucified he left this earth to return again and once again have his own church which I doubt will be called the Catholic church. There is no mention of the Catholic church in the bible whatsoever.

Answer 8

Nowhere in the Bible can the catholic church claim supremacy of founding the "church."
In Acts 10, the term Christians were first used in Antioch. The Catholic church didn't come into focus until the 4th century, I believe.
And no, Peter was not the first pope.

Matthew 18:18 has nothing to do with your debate. Please don't take it out of context without reading the Scriptures in whole.

Answer 9

"The greater the sinner the greater the right he has for My mercy.... On the cross My Sacred Heart was pierced by a lance for all souls. No one have I excluded!"

-- Divine Mercy.

.... Isn´t this like the passion of Christ? He could have said, all of them will go to hell, but insted he prayed for them in his unimaginable mercy.

Answer 10

Well Rome can't seem to make up it's mind as to whether or not one must be a Catholic to go to heaven, so I suppose I can see why you are asking. Your infallible church can't/wont infallibly tell you.