I think he felt exactly the same as the thousands of other Jews left to die on the crosses lining the streets of Jerusalem.
From "Judaism for Everyone" by Shmuley Boteach:
Central to the Jewish response to suffering is a staunch rejection of the belief in its redemptive power. According to Judaism there are no ennobling qualities in pain…. The belief in the redemptive quality of suffering is a profoundly Christian concept. In Christianity, the suffering servant, the crucified Christ, brings atonement for the sins of mankind through his own sacrifice and torment. The message: Without suffering there can be no redemption. According to Christianity, if Jesus had not suffered and died on the cross, mankind would still be damned. Suffering is therefore extolled in the New Testament: “And not only that, but we also boast in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces hope” (Rom. 5:3-4). “If we are being afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation; if we are being consoled, it is for your consolation, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we are also suffering” (2 Cor. 1:6). Indeed, Paul even made suffering an obligation, encouraging the fledging Christians to “share in suffering like a good soldier of Christ Jesus” (2 Tim. 2:3).
In Judaism, however, suffering is anything but redemptive. It leads to a tortured spirit and a pessimistic outlook on life. It scars our psyches and brings about a cynical consciousness, devoid of hope. Suffering causes us to dig out the insincerity of the hearts of our fellows and to be envious of other people’s happiness. If individuals do become better people as a result of their suffering, it is despite the fact that they suffered, not because of it. Ennoblement of character comes through triumph over suffering, rather than its endurance.
Man’s mission was never to make peace with suffering and death, but to abolish them from the face of the earth for all eternity by joining God as a junior partner in creation. By studying medicine and offering aid to people in need, we live up to our highest calling of having been created in the divine image. The atheist doctor who struggles to cure AIDS is infinitely more in tune with the Jewish response to suffering than the minister of religion who tells his flock that suffering is part of the divine plan. The sinning businessman who may have never stepped into a synagogue but makes a loan to a colleague to save him from bankruptcy is more in tune with the Jewish response to suffering than the Rabbi who seeks to give a rationalization for why children die of leukemia…. Our role as humans is not to give meaning to aberrations, but combating them and to healing wounds.
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2007-11-07 09:17:41
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answered by Hatikvah 7
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Counseling - Who, besides God would he council with? There would not have been a person around who could have been able to comprehend what he was about to do.
No offense Dr. Phil, but I don't think you would have been able to offer any meaningful insight either.
How Christ felt - We know from the bible that he didn't want to go through with it.
"Father, if you are willing, take this cup away from me" Luke 22:42
So he was scared
But he also was totally obedient to the Father and therefore had the courage to accept that if it was necessary he would do it.
"...still, not my will but yours be done." Luke 22:42
The way I feel about Christ's crucifixiion is a combination of anger and gratitude. Not anger towards the Jews, but rather anger that because of our collective sins, Jesus had to go through what he did.
The gratitude comes from what his dying did for us. His death on the cross has freed us from enternal death.
Why I feel this way - Being a Christian, there really is no other way to feel. If someone gives up their life for you, how else can you feel but deeply grateful?
Facts - No one has facts. No one knows exactly how Jesus felt. All we have are beliefs and opinions based on our own limited human "feelings.
2007-11-07 08:51:30
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answered by nealeinmi 3
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I think that Bible scriptures do not tell the truth...
So how do we know that the account of Jews killing Jesus is nonsense? Analyzing the Gospel account shows it for what it is. The so called trial given in the NT story is the completely opposite of the Jewish law
1) It takes place at night- all trials were held during the day
2) It takes place in a private home- all trials in Jeruslaem were held in the court of the Sanhedrin in the Temple courtyard
3) There were very few people present - there have to be a minimum of 21 judges in a capital case- in Jerusalem the full Sanhedrin of 70 judges heard capital cases.
4) If a court cannot find a person guilty, they are forbidden to hand them over to secular authorities - the "court" in the NT does not find jesus guilty, and then hands him over.
So four serious violations of the Halacha (Jewish law)- which since they were in a capital case means the death sentence for those committing the violations- yet the NT keeps slandering the Pharisees and their strict adherence to the law!
On top of that- you have a big problem, a Roman governor who is later removed for excessive cruelty! (You have wonder- and this from a people that watched people fighting to death, getting eaten alive etc for fun!) And yet a conquered, powerless group of people is somehow meant to have the ability to get him to obey them?
What does make sense is if this whole ridiculous scenario is inserted in to remove the blame from the Romans when the early Christians were trying to convert them and needed a scapegoat! Who better than the people that had rejected their new God - it removes the blame from the people they are trying to convert while giving an excuse why the vast majority of them have rejected him!!!
2007-11-07 08:45:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Since I wasn't here I must understand that most of what I feel is what and how I have been taught to feel about something as gross and stupid as that. The contradictions encountered don't give me much to work with in that I don't know if the concept is to make me feel guilty or aware of higher meanings hidden away behind some facade of bloodshed. And I find myself not feeling much when I free myself of this since I see it every day all around the world and in cases far worse and less innocent than the seeming account of this history. Actually I feel disgust at it all but understand how we all are a small part playing a small role in a small place thinking all the time there is more to it than my small perceptions and concepts.
2007-11-07 08:37:18
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answered by JORGE N 7
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You are a big fat fake. Hey guys, notice there is no "official" badge under his avatar. You are using Dr. Phil's picture and representing yourself as someone you're not. Just wanted to point that out to anyone who still thinks Dr. Phil is acting like a horse's *** on YA- the real Dr. Phil is not that immature. You need real help, dude. Did you just wake up today and decide to flood YA with abstract, strange questions to/about catholics?
2007-11-07 14:13:39
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answered by Wendy's My Name 2
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I think that it is a very sad story and my heart goes out to him and to his mother. I am agnostic and I don't necessarily believe in all of the religious ramifications of this event.
I think like most people that have been persecuted wrongly, he felt very confused, hurt, scared, betrayed and angry. Even if he was born to be a martyr as the bible suggests, it couldn't have been easy.
I don't think that Jesus is the one that needed counseling. It sounds to me more like his disciples and the powers that ordered his execution needed some counseling!
2007-11-07 08:32:57
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answered by wondermom 6
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definitely a horrible way to die, but as far as how jesus felt, only he would be able to honestly answer that, I'm sure that being human, he was in anguish, after all, being staked to a cross is not exactly a painless experience by any standard....as far as counseling....I doubt it would have altered things, as back then, humans didn't possess the knowledge of psychology that we possess in modern times...
2007-11-07 08:35:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus Christ isn't the one that needed the counseling and even if he did, he had the greatest counselor of all, GOD.
2007-11-07 15:17:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Dr Phil the cross is a place of pain and suffering. I deserved that punishment...and when I slip, and sin, I feel He is put right back on the cross.
God said "be ye perfect". I fall so short. Forgive me Lord!!!
2007-11-07 08:57:49
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answered by Anonymous
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It happened to a man thousands of miles from here, and some 2,000 years ago. Millions of people have been killed. I feel sorry for all of them. Being nailed to boards is a good way to ruin anyone's day. So I don't think he felt very well. My feelings on based on common sense.
2007-11-07 08:34:09
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answered by TheCheatest902 6
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J.C. is the golden calf of todays Roman Empire we can call the UN. The UN people are the ones telling itself what its not. We will reap what we have sown. There is only separation of the self if there is no God. God is All.
2007-11-07 08:36:23
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answered by Anonymous
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