...come to earth to be the Messiah.
Is this something we should dispute between one another?
2007-11-07 06:38:07 · 27 answers · asked by jamestheprophet 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jesus stated in John 10:30:
I and the Father are one
2007-11-07 06:50:05 · update #1
...my friends are very loving in there attempts to show me where in the scripture it shows Jesus was not God
2007-11-07 06:52:19 · update #2
oops...not there, but their
2007-11-07 06:53:13 · update #3
Even while the dispute is there, it doesn't have to get in the way. Air it from time to time just to let out some of the pressure on both sides, then move past it and embrace the common ground.
2007-11-07 06:48:08 · answer #1 · answered by Tommy 5 · 0⤊ 4⤋
John 10:30 -36.
The Father and I are one (What?).
Context, Context, Context:
vs 25 Jesus tells us about the works he and the Father are doing.
vs 30 the Father and Jesus are united, one. One what? The Greek word ‘one’ (hen literally means ‘one thing’ or ‘in unity’)
vs 32 Which works are you stoning me for?
vs 33 – 35 Jesus tells us he is equal to the human gods of Ps 82:6.
vs 36 Jesus identifies himself not as his Father but as his Father’s Son (John 8:42-45),
Jesus is the Son, not part of the Son, Jesus is the Christ, not part of the Christ.
vs 37 believe the works.
The context to John 10:30 shows: I and my Father are one (united in works).
This agrees with John 17:11, 20 – 22;
Unity does not mean equality.
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2007-11-08 08:53:20 · answer #2 · answered by TeeM 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
there is basically one God yet there are assorted names for God. Allah is between the final names by using fact it skill " the only " or " The Self-Existent ". Mohammad felt it replaced into significant to remind people of this fact and stop squabbling. yet I see that we are nevertheless squabbling.------enable us to submit to in suggestions that God with the aid of the different call continues to be God...in simple terms as a rose with the aid of the different call continues to be a rose...and concentration on the fact it somewhat is God/Allah/Yahweh/Bhagwan/and so on. particularly than play the call game! ultimate needs. Philip.
2016-10-15 09:17:35 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus said, "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." (John 17:3)
Not only did Jesus say that it meant "everlasting life" to know who God and His Son Jesus were, but God is mentioned as a SEPARATE PERSON from Jesus here.
No need to dispute. Just read about what JWs teach, compare scriptures and then decide for yourself:
http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050422/article_02.htm
2007-11-07 06:51:19 · answer #4 · answered by tik_of_totg 3 · 5⤊ 2⤋
Jesus never said he was God. he was Jehovah's first creation and was with Jehovah for billions of years before he came to earth. who was Jesus praying to? you cannot pray to yourself. Jesus Christ said he cannot do anything without the Father in the heaven. when Jesus was baptized, Jehovah came down like a dove and said this is my son the beloved. Jesus Christ is the Messiah. not God. see the website at www.watchtower.org. yes Jesus said you seen me you seen the Father, my daughter looks like me but we are different. mother and daughter
2007-11-07 06:42:42 · answer #5 · answered by lover of Jehovah and Jesus 7 · 6⤊ 2⤋
You can discuss it; there is no need for argument.
Is Jesus Christ the Messiah? Yes. "Messiah" and "Christ" both mean the same thing. They mean "anointed."
Is Jesus God himself? No. At John 17:3, Jesus called his Father the only true God.
Who else called Jesus God's Son?
Jesus- "I am God's Son." John 10:36
Gabriel- "“Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son." Luke 1:35
John the Baptizer- "I viewed the spirit coming down as a dove out of heaven, and it remained upon him. Even I did not know him, but the very One who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘Whoever it is upon whom you see the spirit coming down and remaining, this is the one that baptizes in holy spirit.’ And I have seen [it], and I have borne witness that this one is the Son of God.” John 1:32-34
Apostle John- "But these have been written down that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, you may have life by means of his name." John 20:31
Peter- "“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Matt. 16:16
Nathaniel- "Rabbi, you are the Son of God, you are King of Israel. John 1:49
Disciples- “You are really God’s Son.” Matt. 14:33
Martha- "Yes, Lord; I have believed that you are the Christ the Son of God, the One coming into the world." John 11:27
Saul- "and immediately in the synagogues he began to preach Jesus, that this One is the Son of God." Acts 9:20
Paul- "God is faithful, by whom you were called into a sharing with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord." 1 Cor. 1:9
Jesus' enemies- "We have a law, and according to the law he ought to die, because he made himself God’s son.” John 19:7
Devil- ““If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become a loaf of bread."
Demons- "What have we to do with you, Son of God?" Matt. 8:29
There is overwhelming evidence that Jesus is NOT God. He is the Son of God.
2007-11-07 06:40:53 · answer #6 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 8⤊ 2⤋
this is something you should listen to your friend on.
john 14:28 YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.
2007-11-07 10:48:43 · answer #7 · answered by bongobeat25 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
If you have a discussion use a King James Bible , their bible is in it's 55th rendition .. They are programmed only in certain verses . I worked with a guy and to brake the ice I asked him if he goes to church , " I'm a Jehovah " was his response ....I said , " Don't get mad but , why don't you believe Jesus is God ? " The veins in his neck and forehead protruded and screamed " Jesus is not God !! He was the son of God !!! ". Be careful !! Read 2 John :7-11 please
2007-11-07 08:34:12 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 4⤋
I am very very conflicted on this. I believe Jesus is the messiah. But I also believe he is God. Rather, God is Jesus in the form of man, just as God is Jesus is the Holy Spirit in form of his Spirit indwelt in us.
Where is it in the Bible that says Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God? I just believe it because I was taught to. I have to.
2007-11-07 06:42:55 · answer #9 · answered by Joyful 3 · 0⤊ 6⤋
You are right...and it is your obligation, as a Christian, to learn what they teach that is heresy, and give them the gospel.
http://freeminds.org
http://waltermartin.org
http://silentlambs.org
2007-11-09 02:21:26 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋