JW's :Why didn't the WBTS announce the lessening of the penalties for having transfusions, in any publications

Question

So is the fact that the WBTS lessesd the penalty on dicipline for receiving a blood transfusion 7 years ago "Old News"?

I don't remember it being announced in any of the magazxines or publications.

Is this like when they said it was ok to have Organ transplants, or to receive Vaccinations?


Will it go something like this: Having a blood transfusion was a Disfellowshipping offense....Now it is a Disassosciating offense...

From a disassosciating offense ..to a matter of consciense....

From a matter of conseience to a command to follow the "New Light" and a commmand to partake

From "New Light" command to..a disfellowshipping offense for not having a blood transfusion and considered suicide...?


We all have watched this pattern with other Witness edicts...What abouyt this one...We all can see this coming!

When did God say in the scriptures that vaccinations werw against his laws? When did God change his mind?

Hay Dwayne !!!! yes it is thanksgiving, and i have on my holiday attire....I have been missing you my christian brother!

conundrum....OH nO...I thought that was a clown nose! oops...see I can admit when I make mistakes!

Debbie: It mey not be a lesser penalty now, bit when I was a witness, it was a much lesses penalty. Just another change by the wbts.

Arie: You automaticly call me a liar. Yes it is true that my father would have raped me repetidly no matter what religion he practiced..He Chose the Witnesses because of the 2 witness rule and he knew that he would be protected...And he has been, and that is a Witness problem! You had better hope that he is not one of the Elders that you subject yourself and your children to!

Why..On Earth>>after God showed me the Cult beginnings and tendencies of the Witnesses, would I ever disgrace him by going back to that blindness?

There is a scripture about a dog going back to his vomit, which applies to this question.

Answer 1

I don't know their history but their "massive suicide" teachings is CULT practices. The infants, children, that got led to death because of false teachings IS an ABOMINATION to the God Almighty YHWH. "Their (children) blood is crying out to me from the ground. YOU (WBTS) spilled their blood. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!" On the day the God Almighty chooses, REVENGE belongs to Him. Look at how they answer back to you; SHAME on them, for they have no CONSCIOUS!
Hey, if you witnesses don't love your children, give them to somebody that will love them with all their heart. The law is coming down upon you WBTS.

EDIT: Lovechri, I am absolutely sure that blood transfusion does not come from animals.

Arie, I hear about many cults on the news that led their follower's to suicides, and they ALL killed (murdered) their children too. Just like you guys, same scenario. You call me stupid and put yourself above me soooo puff up with pride. Are you sure you are a Chirstian? Watch out before you answer, don't shame Christ Jesus!

Answer 2

One of my high-quality pal's existence used to be stored by means of a blood transfusion. They keep way more lives than they damage. This is solely yet another loopy conspiracy concept. Consider what number of lives are SAVED by means of a blood transfusion. Doctors not often do a blood transfusion until it is certainly medically vital. Let's say your little one/partner/some thing will get right into a vehicle crash. They are bleeding profusely and can close to without doubt die from blood loss. What do you do? Would you as an alternative have them close to definitely die from blood loss, or could you're taking the mild (close to nonexistent) danger of a center assault? This research is mistaken. Have you ever viewed that folks that want blood transfusions essentially the most also are the unhealthiest men and women? These men and women ALREADY have an extended danger of center assaults and loss of life. I'm certain the men and women who're towards blood transfusions are the equal uneducated fools who believe vaccines are riskier than getting a sickness, seatbelts kill men and women, and many others...

Answer 3

Disassociation is not less than disfellowshipping.

Where you familiar with JWs as you seem to claim, you'd known that unbaptized persons who have started going in door work were called "associates".

Disfellowshipping is for unrepentant BAPTIZED individuals. Disassociation is for disciplining persons not yet JWs, but just associating/studying/beginning door work. You cannot disfellowship someone who has not yet become a JW.

There has never been a lessening of anything in the 20 years I've been a witness.

Additionally, disfellowshipping does not automatically happen in cases of gross wrongdoing. The person must be unrepentant (determined to keep on). Repentant ones are just reproved, counseled and helped to correct their behavior however is needed such as getting rehab for someone who may have fallen into drug or alcohol problems, getting medical help, or whatever else is needed.

Debbie

Answer 4

There is no lessening of a penalty either way you look at it. If you are disfellowshiped it means the elders have decided that was the best disipline for you if you disasociate yourself it means you felt like disfellowshiping was the best action to but you decided to do it first. This isnt a penalty it is a sad thing either way. And either way you are always welcomed back.
Im sorry for you and that it happened to you. No one protects anyone dont worry wether you want it or not he will pay for what he did

Your battle is with your father not with Witnesses. Had he been a Mormon or catholic or Jew you never would have blamed religion.... Stop making false statements. If your really interested in knowing the answers to your questions you would be at a Kingdom hall asking questions and you would humbly accept the answers given to you by people who really understand and know the answers to your question. Seeing how you are pushing the issue I take it as you trying to start a battle in which you will be unsuccessful..

Lavander-
We love our children so much. Why on earth would you believe that we dont? Not only that do you believe we are aliens with no feelings at all? In every religion it is safe to say that people love their children, families, and friends. I couldnt image anything like that. Thats horrifying! I would give my life, like any other mother for my Child. Now let me explain the Definition of a Cult to you.... A cult is a organization that follows a MAN or Idol. Witnesses are classified as a Christian organization that follows Jesus, God and the Bible. So no JW is not a cult and your ignorance makes you look stupid and dumb!


Paula------ I couldnt agree with you more. God created the things need to help out with sickness... But he did not give us blood inorder to share it is dirty once it leaves your body and Witnesses are not the only religion that believes that but the only one to make a stand on it. What she is saying here are false statements of pure ignorance. They never changed anything..

Geneis... The Father Is God Jehovah His SOn is Jesus.. Thats it

Answer 5

TanksN2 quoted Acts 15:29 that states that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from tasting blood and eating meat that came from strangled animals and from sexual impurity,has no effect on what your speaking of your post is correct/people have a tendency to quote scriptures that they percieve their way

Answer 6

I have no idea. But it would make sense that their members would drop out. If they just went and changed a major doctrine like that. Many people have sacrificed their life for that doctrine. Also, this way, they can slowly introduce their"new" theological idea. If someone is indoctrinated over time it "sticks" better. The fact is, there is no biblical reference for their refusal for them @ any level @ all. God gave man the knowledge to make medicine.

Answer 7

BECAUSE THEY ARE SERIOUSLY DELUDED.

They call themselves Jehovah (ie God the Father) Witnesses, but in actuality they are witnesses for Jehovah God the Son.


The matter is fully dealt with, from Isaiah 40-45 in this link:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071105052320AA8wf36&cp=2



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Answer 8

Well you are wrong. I am a JW and I can reassure you and anyone else out there that you are waaay off base here. There is no "conscience matter" on a topic that is clearly forbidden in the Bible. (Acts 15:29)

So why dont you run along to your "Informant" and let them know that they should really stop telling these lies

Answer 9

IF you are committing a sin and discovered, you will be scripturally advised, at least once before any action is taken.
No one is permanently cut off.
Your own conscience will bother you before anyone else says anything.

A loyal brother......Agape!

Answer 10

This Avatar is Much Better, the Other one with the " Reindeer Nose" was utterly repulsive. You making strides...