how can you tell what a "real" believer is, and by who's standard?

Question

why are people using the flawed "no true Scotsman" argument with christians?

"only a REAL christian would do " X "

in response to primo

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so many christians and non christians spoke out from what this person said, all agreed that no sin or crime against self/others is worse than the next, all live in glass houses, no one should be throwing stones

Answer 1

It's generally by their own standards. The "REAL Christian" argument comes from being constantly reminded of the periods when Christianity was more oppressive and abusive than usual, and to distance themselves from infamous Christians.

There is also an extreme media bias that Christians are somehow more moral than the rest of society, which is demonstrably false. Of course, it is the Christian majority who is promoting this bias. In fact, jails have a greater percentage of Christians and less percentage of atheists than the rest of society.

Answer 2

Cos they haven't heard of the 'no true Scotsman' argument.
Don't forget 'they' think they're really, REALLY smart and the things 'they' think of have never been thunked[sic] of, or about, before.

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"If someone is blatantly immersed in sin (i.e. homosexuality), then you can just tell that they are not in Christ"
'They' seem to to be really, REALLY hung up on consenting gays, huh?
Child molestation, rape, murder, corporate pillaging and the starvation of millions, pales into insignificance in the 'true' fundie's mind when the homosexual act, between men (I think they get off on the thought of women 'doing it') is contemplated.

Well done by the way; you attracted a coupla comedians and that can never be a bad thing.

Answer 3

God substitute into attempting out Abraham's listening to - there substitute into no purpose that Abraham will bypass this try by potential of killing his son. The try substitute into that he substitute into able to distinguish between the voice of God and the mutterings of devil. He knew it substitute into God and however he didnt understand WHY God might ask the kind of component He had each and every purpose of doing what God asked of him. devoid of God's grace Abraham does not have surpassed this try if he skipped over His command to "end" after having tied his son away from mattress to take his life. God didnt ask Jephthah to kill his daughter. He made a vow to God which substitute into irrelevant. shows the stupidity in making vows to God devoid of thinking with reference to the outcomes. it somewhat is been some years because i've got study those thoughts yet basically concept I'ld share formerly i flow lower back and reread it. could I kill my toddler if God informed me to? I doubt it because of the fact i might in all threat doubt that it substitute into God doing the asking. Thanx for the question - gotta flow and carry out a little bible reading!

Answer 4

The Bible is what defines a true Christian from a fake.

Doctrine reveals either a true believer, or a deceiver.

Works and "good deeds" don't do it, because Mormons, for instance, do lots of "good deeds". But Mormon doctrine reveals them as unsaved.

Answer 5

You shall know them by their fruits........

Sometimes, it's pretty obvious who is saved and who isn't.
If someone is blatantly immersed in sin (i.e. homosexuality), then you can just tell that they are not in Christ

Answer 6

it's to distance themselves from all the wrongdoing in their faith camp...

Answer 7

who cares, they are all annoying

Answer 8

God knows, isn't that enough? Why do humans have to judge.